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Old 08-04-2019, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Washington State
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This is not mentally sick lone wolf stuff.
There's an ideology of white supremacism that's being nurtured in groups on the web similar to Muslim terrorist cells. Law enforcement has to treat this as terrorism and root these people out.
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This type demonization by the Left and their media of white males is creating anger and motivating more and more of these attacks...even by this exteme leftist El Paso shooter.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This is the sort of rhetoric that inspired Booker’s ilk to shoot Steve Scalise.
Scalise was shot by a deranged far left idiot the same as the Wal-Mart shooter who was a deranged for-profit idiot. The common ground, both are deranged idiots politicized by their team believing whatever unchecked garbage they want.
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Old 08-04-2019, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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This type demonization by the Left and their media of white males is creating anger and motivating more and more of these attacks...even by this exteme leftist El Paso shooter.
Excuse me? It isn't just the left, but the right who makes this an issue. The media regardless of political leanings and biases talk about these shootings 24/7 until Trump has his next Twitter storm or North Korea launches another missile or the next hurricane makes landfall. The problem with the right is they act like nothing is wrong and more guns will stop this. They won't. On Black Friday just last year, a black man was shot by police despite NOT being the white man who opened fired in a mall just because police saw a black man with a gun try to potentially be the good guy with a gun. The good guy with a gun myth the right loves to tell, died with that innocent man.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Phoenix,Arizona
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No agenda, just facts. Do I need to list the rhetoric that Trump continues to spew?

If a radical Muslim got behind his pulpit and preached hatred of the West, hatred of democracy, and hatred of America, would you hold this man blameless if one of his supporters wrote a manifesto echoing his statements and then went on to shoot and kill 20 people in a Walmart?

I don't think so.

Kinda like Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama who sat for 20 years in a Liberation Theology Church condemning Christianity and America while professing Marxism.


With the goal of ' completely transform America ' just look what he did
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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It is you spewing out "us" vs "them". And now using this shooting to push your hateful narrative. It's reprehensible.
Thanks for the kudos. Some of us are going to always follow the old fashioned ways...that of being civil and hoping that people are sane and decent.

Others...well, they do what excites them or what they are paid for or what attracts attention, etc.

Let the best ideals win.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:43 AM
 
Location: Florida
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No NRA members are shooters..
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Thanks for the kudos. Some of us are going to always follow the old fashioned ways...that of being civil and hoping that people are sane and decent.

Others...well, they do what excites them or what they are paid for or what attracts attention, etc.

Let the best ideals win.
The problem is many people don't want to be civil anymore. We are politicized and us versus them. Who cares who started it, we need to end it like civilized adults, not whining babies.
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump is indeed responsible. He cultivated and fertilized the environment for these shootings to occur.
No, the shooter was outraged at the amount of illegals who took jobs and he said he sees no future for himself.. Trump is trying to correct what the democrats are doing to America.. but the dems keep plugging on ..
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Old 08-04-2019, 11:51 AM
 
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Scalise was shot by a deranged far left idiot the same as the Wal-Mart shooter who was a deranged for-profit idiot. The common ground, both are deranged idiots politicized by their team believing whatever unchecked garbage they want.
How many deaths is one wounding "equal" to?

Just checking on the score here.....

No doubt MILLIONS on the right truly believe in "2nd amendment remedies". My take is that fewer...vastly fewer.....on the left feel the same way. It's still a lot of numbers and it only takes one, of course.

But, as you well see, the multiple "ones" are shooting up older Jews in their house of worships and targeting hispanics and others...and sometimes just looking at numbers (for attention).

Gun nuts and gun culture and hate fueling it...a perfect storm....

And, yes, to your point...a rain drizzle differs from a deluges and a flood/storm....

By the definition of the Right and their "remedies" of using violence and guns as the solution to a problem, the Scalise situation at least involved two parties who were involved in the exact situation..that is, one who promoted gun culture and "2nd amendment rememdies" and another civilian nut who thought they were/are dangerous leaders.

I abhor all violence - but the worst of it is against innocents. Live by the sword and die by the sword has been a know fact for centuries...as well as political assassination and targeting.

What has not been normalized in the US in all of history (point it out if I am wrong) is mass killings of the general public in public.

I haven't studied it so am ready to be proven wrong. Maybe others can point to equiv. situations week after week for years that targeted innocents, women, children, shoppers, etc. in our history???

Violence has been part of the USA since day one and before. Pretending it is not seems foolish. The highest gun violence rates in our history were in the Hills of TN and KY during certain periods (250 per 100,000)....which is about 20X higher than Texas today and 50X higher than more enlightened states.

But even that was generally not innocents. It was a combo of domestic (lots of relatives shooting each others) and the famous feuds and just the general bent of the people on violent behavior.

Opiates as well as the young people leaving has tamped that way down...

Political hits are "normal" in that at least 1 in 4 POTUS's have been shot or shot at and many famous people have been shot (Lincoln, JFK, RFK, MLK and so many more).....Reagan even took a bullet.

That was never of too much concern...it seemed...to many. This is new and a differnent subject altogether. Today death threats come to each and every pol or others who dare anger people.
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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Yes, Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama


who gave $100 million U.S. taxpayer funds to rebuild foreign mosques.
who refused to condemn the Ft. Hood killer as an Islamic terrorist.
who funneled $900 million in U.S. taxpayer dollars to Hamas.

The evidence is clear for all except for the blind, deaf and stupid that
Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama who wrote that, in the event of a conflict
"I will stand with the Muslims." Never has had America's best interest at heart !


Bookman is just Barry Soroto A.K.A Barack Hussein Obama's " Mini Me "
Regarding the $100 million funds, it was started under Bush to rebuild mosques, churches and temples around the world.
https://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/fu...ques-overseas/

He did condemn the Ft. Hood shooter.
At Fort Hood, Obama condemns shooter's 'twisted logic'

Regarding aid to Hamas, it was give to the Gazans following the Bush administration.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/24/w...on/24gaza.html

Amazing what a little research can unearth.
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