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Old 08-06-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Brave New World View Post
Guns are an easy way to kill yourself, which is one of the reasons why US Suicides are up in many states but down in many pther countries.

As for murder rates they are substantial whether black or white and in terms of the prolific gun massacres they are not being carried out by blacks or other ethnic groups.

The main debate is about reducing weapons used in certain gun massacres, the same weapons legialated against in other countries after similar massacres.
Russia and Japan both highly control guns and yet they have the highest suicide rates in the world.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:53 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Default Once again, there is no such thing as an assault weapon ban

There never was. It was symbolic and that's it. Everyone still bought them from 1994 - 2004.

Any new "ban" will be exactly the same. There is one in CA right now and I just bought another one. A Federal ban will be no different. Everyone screaming for a ban are just wasting time.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...metic_features
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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But it sounds good to people who are scared of mean bad guns.
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:56 AM
 
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Russia and Japan both highly control guns and yet they have the highest suicide rates in the world.
How can that be? Don't guns cause crime and suicide?
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Old 08-06-2019, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Crazy people can do less damage if they couldnít get their hands on a gun...absolutely no way it creates more violence. Violence of some sort will always exist but it doesnít mean you canít reduce it.



Sorry but you don't get to restrict my freedoms based on what you think a crazy person might do with the same freedoms.

If that were the case, you could apply the same logic to just about anything.

When that happens...... we're no longer a free country.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:12 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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But it sounds good to people who are scared of mean bad guns.
Well, they'll be in utter shock then when gun shops don't skip a beat just like back in 94. Here in CA they never even took em off the walls as they knew well in advance the work arounds.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Out West
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Uh- the first order is to defend the Constitution.

The second order, to obey the President, presumes the President is faithfully executing the Constitution. If they are not, then it is an unlawful order.

Thirdly- the military has the Posse Comitatus act of 1878 that restricts activities with regards to domestic matters, which by the way this current POTUS has stretched to its' limits.

Did you serve or at least listen in Civics?
I most certainly did serve. Did you?
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There never was. It was symbolic and that's it. Everyone still bought them from 1994 - 2004.

Any new "ban" will be exactly the same. There is one in CA right now and I just bought another one. A Federal ban will be no different. Everyone screaming for a ban are just wasting time.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...metic_features
The assault weapons ban was weak, too many exemptions and companies merely slightly modified their product line to bypass. Yet people always point to the AWB as being non-effective when in reality it wasn't meaningful legislation.
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Old 08-06-2019, 10:58 AM
 
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The assault weapons ban was weak, too many exemptions and companies merely slightly modified their product line to bypass. Yet people always point to the AWB as being non-effective when in reality it wasn't meaningful legislation.
Word it however you want. Still meaningless.
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Old 08-06-2019, 11:02 AM
 
Location: NC
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Bragging about ignoring the law really takes away from the contradicting talking point that "law abiding gun owners" are not the problem.

It sounds to me like you should title your thread "Once again, there is no such thing as a law abiding gun owner".

(I know that's not true. I own guns, and as it pertains to gun ownership laws, I am confident that I abide by the letter AND THE INTENT of the law.)
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