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Old 08-05-2019, 07:31 AM
 
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Apparently you were wrong.

Poor thing.....

There is a sharp rise in right-wing terror, like the El Paso shooter, but it says nothing about white people in general. YOU connected it to white people.
Guess the Dayton shooter being a left winger Elizabeth Warren shooter doesn’t matter tontyebiegtbsimce now they’re trying to throw that one under the bus
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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The Left will not "let a good crisis go to waste" and will continue to lump more whites as "white nationalists" and "domestic terrorists" for disagreeing with their talking points. It is will go into full overdrive mode. These are the types of games they play.

Don't fall for their agenda and always be ready to cite stats. The Left will never touch the topics like the daily mass shootings in Chicago and Baltimore. Let's just take Chicago as an example of what the media won't touch:

Murders between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 by year:

2018: 561
2017: 660
2016: 777

Shooting victims between Jan. 1 and Dec. 31 by year:

2018: 2,948
2017: 3,463
2016: 4,351
Of course, we are not talking about murders. We are talking about mass shootings. But what is a little difference such as that?

Whatever.

Clinton signed assault weapons ban in 1994; mass shootings dropped 43%. Bush & GOP let ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Guess the Dayton shooter being a left winger Elizabeth Warren shooter doesn’t matter tontyebiegtbsimce now they’re trying to throw that one under the bus
It would matter if the shooting had been politically motivated, but it wasn't. The El Paso one was politically motivated (right wing motivation).

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Old 08-05-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Of course, we are not talking about murders. We are talking about mass shootings. But what is a little difference such as that?

Whatever.

Clinton signed assault weapons ban in 1994; mass shootings dropped 43%. Bush & GOP let ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.
I saw that on Twitter too. I get all my information from Twitter.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:38 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Of course, we are not talking about murders. We are talking about mass shootings. But what is a little difference such as that?

Whatever.

Clinton signed assault weapons ban in 1994; mass shootings dropped 43%. Bush & GOP let ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.
Lies

It was allowed to expire because crime stats didn't change. If anything the number of "mass shootings" went slightly up because of the BS scope was enlarged to include about any weapon a leftist deemed scary was now an "assault weapon". Entirely fabricated term.
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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Of course, we are not talking about murders. We are talking about mass shootings. But what is a little difference such as that?

Whatever.

Clinton signed assault weapons ban in 1994; mass shootings dropped 43%. Bush & GOP let ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.

Well...not exactly. And keep in mind, one could still purchase AR's and AK's all through the ban, just minus certain cosmetic accessories. Yes, we have seen a spike, but only recently, which has nothing to do with the ban from 15 years ago.


https://www.politifact.com/florida/s...nt-assault-we/


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...ns_Ban#Effects
Violence

A 2017 review found that the ban did not have a significant effect on firearm homicides.
A 2014 study found no impacts on homicide rates with an assault weapon ban.A 2014 book published by Oxford University Press noted that "There is no compelling evidence that [the ban] saved lives".
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Old 08-05-2019, 07:58 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Explain how your Trump bashing and gun grabbing desire is “solving” anything?
Trump out of office decreases the hateful, ignorant and divisive rhetoric. Less guns on the street and tighter regs on the ones that are there (holding owners personally responsible - license, insurance and registration) means less people killed.

Pretty simple bro. Even for a Trumper.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:00 AM
TKO
 
Location: On the Border
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Of course, we are not talking about murders. We are talking about mass shootings. But what is a little difference such as that?

Whatever.

Clinton signed assault weapons ban in 1994; mass shootings dropped 43%. Bush & GOP let ban expire in 2004; they went up over 230%.
They just can't consider themselves as on the same side as terrorists so they try to conflate their sides terrorism with crime.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Trump is about to announce his new anti-gun proposals.
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Old 08-05-2019, 08:16 AM
 
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Trump out of office decreases the hateful, ignorant and divisive rhetoric. Less guns on the street and tighter regs on the ones that are there (holding owners personally responsible - license, insurance and registration) means less people killed.

Pretty simple bro. Even for a Trumper.

Explain the inner cities then. Here in MI, handguns are registered and like anywhere else in the country it isn't legal for felons to have them. Yet, every single night in Detroit there are multiple shootings, and the majority of the time when they catch the shooter he was a felon. How is that possible ? One has to pass a background check to apply for a purchase permit (or have a CPL) , then another background check at the time of purchase, then the handgun is registered with the MSP. Maybe another law or restriction might help ?
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