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Old 08-04-2019, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida, Support our police
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Go ahead and have a gun confiscation. You will have the start of a civil war in this country. BTW I would never advocate or endorse this. But go ahead and take guns away from people. See what happens!!
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:32 PM
 
Location: AZ
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Hey OP, where’s your proof to back up your “claim” that the “only thing that works is total confiscation”?

It’s awfully convenient for you to state that that this is the only option.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:34 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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how do you stop gun crime without total confiscation.

You can't know who will shoot somebody until after they do it.

Confiscatory gun control will go over as well as alcohol prohibition.
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Old 08-04-2019, 09:55 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Saying ending gun sale loop holes and having universal background checks makes no difference is like when Democrats say having a border wall won't make a difference when it comes to illegal crossings. Both claims are false. It won't stop everyone, but it does make it harder, it allows for more chances on catching someone. What we also need is to have a better method to report suspicious behavior or potentially dangerous people. In most cases there were warning signs on their social media, etc. We should give authorities more opportunity to investigate these people.
There is a pattern that most of these shooters are in their early to mid 20's so there isn't sufficient personal history to see if these shooters are "Potential Time Bombs".

We don't have the resources for government investigative agencies to follow up on every person in their early 20's and see if they are posting potential red flags on social internet forums.

"Giving Authorities More investigative Opportunities" as you put it opens the door for the government to trample our private rights as citizens in the name of public safety. Sorry, but me and many other Americans are not going to turn this country into a police state and have the Feds pry into our private lives at the expense of a few whackos that go on killing sprees. The internet and what sites I visit should have the same level of privacy as a phone line.
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Old 08-05-2019, 12:20 AM
 
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Cities and states would look like war zones if mandatory confiscations ever happen, people will be out in gun battles with police every day, it would be total chaos, unlike anything we have seen before, no one would go to work anymore, pay their bills, etc. there would be bombings, missile strikes, etc!
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Old 08-05-2019, 12:24 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Yeah... I did already. I was hoping that my summary of your position might cause you to walk that back a bit. Because, frankly, it's nuts.
I agree, your summary is nuts. Feel free to get serious and try again.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:07 AM
 
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The leftists (in both parties) have tried waiting periods, misnamed "assault weapons" bans, confiscation from people who do worrisome things, "gun free" zones, etc. etc. And mass shootings just keep happening. In fact, now the leftists are telling us they are getting worse. In other words, none of the leftists' schemed are working, by their own admission.

The only proactive government "gun control" agenda that has ever worked, is a total nationwide ban and confiscation. And even that only works when govt conducts repeated periodic sweeps. Checking every house for illegal guns again and again, indefinitely into the future, whether the residents like it or not. In other words, an all-watchful, all-powerful police state.

Democrats up to and including Barack Obama, have praised various nations whose rates of gun deaths have gone down - Japan, Australia, England etc. And they have even expressed a desire to emulate them. Well, guess what: Those are the countries who have almost totally banned guns and even confiscated them. (Mandatory so-called "gun buybacks" are merely forced confiscation where taxpayers are also forced to subsidize you).

Keep in mind that when leftist do-gooders say they want only a few more "reasonable restrictions" on guns, it's because the restrictions they imposed last year didn't work. Crime and mass shootings continue merrily along, and even increase (like now). And so now they want to impose a few more regulations and restrictions. And when those don't work, next year a few more. The only scheme that does work, is complete confiscation of all of the people's guns, followed by regular house-to-house searches. And that's exactly what they are gradually working their way up to, one small piece at a time.

So-called "gun control" laws are only obeyed by the law-abiding. And they aren't the ones causing the problem.

As long as there are any guns in civilian hands, no matter how law-abiding, criminals will find ways to get them. There is only one way to keep that from happening. Is that what we want?
So whats your rightist solution to the problem?
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:26 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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Go ahead and have a gun confiscation. You will have the start of a civil war in this country. BTW I would never advocate or endorse this. But go ahead and take guns away from people. See what happens!!
This would be a guarantee. even if only 10% of the people who own guns would resist a confiscation, that would still leave millions of people who would fight back violently if you tried a gun confiscation.

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Cities and states would look like war zones if mandatory confiscations ever happen, people will be out in gun battles with police every day, it would be total chaos, unlike anything we have seen before, no one would go to work anymore, pay their bills, etc. there would be bombings, missile strikes, etc!
This statement would most likely be not to far from the truth. It would get ugly and quick.
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Old 08-05-2019, 02:28 AM
 
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I think the general consensus would be:

1) Ban the sale of "assault rifles." Already been tried, it didn't work.



Except the national ban on assault rifles did lead to a decrease in mass shootings. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federa...Mass_shootings


If the goal is to decrease the deadliness of mass shootings, then that ban appeared to have had a positive effect. If the goal is just to decrease overall gun violence, then it doesn't really matter, as most gun violence is not perpetrated with "assault" weapons.

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Old 08-05-2019, 02:29 AM
 
Location: Richmond
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So whats your rightist solution to the problem?
Posted some solutions on post #19
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