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Old Today, 07:25 AM
 
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Better watch these youngins coming up... you know, the ones brought up on violent images who are now ready to solve their problems with mass murder... the ones who are damaged from pedophilia and human trafficking (which gets zero coverage)... the ones who are confused about their gender... and there's more indicators that I see down the road.

I hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't look good to me on the horizon.
Yea that would be your emotional reaction to the increased visibility of the bad things that have always happened but have not always been visible rather than a rational understanding of the actual statistical rates of violence. As well as some wire that got crossed in your brain that equates being confused about your gender as a social ill at a similar level with mass murder, pedophilia, and human trafficking.
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Old Today, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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That is so dramatic and heroic. It harkens to a besieged and beleaguered partisan, heroically fighting the Nazis in WW2, against all odds. Hang in there, comrade, the red army will be there soon to liberate you.

What a laugh!
What are you talking about?


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Obama was one of the most corrupt presidents in US history.
Hard to quantify, but I'll concur that Obama was a corrupt president.


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Obama brought us Comey and Lynch and created the deep state crew of treasonist federal workers who attempted a coup against Trump.
How delightfully imaginative!


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The rule of law was not applied equally during the Obama admin and "special friends" got away with murder.
The rule of law is not applied equally.


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History, when no longer influenced by the fear of PC liberals, will judge Obama harshly, as he was an ineffective, lazy president who tolerated and fomented corruption. Just another Chicago gangster on a grander scale.
We shall see.


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Libs hate Trump, as he is totally transparent and says exactly what is on his mind.
A lot of people hate Donald Trump. Some are liberals.


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We know he is doing the right thing, as the left hates him, and the left is always wrong. When those who hate America, love socialism, hate Jews, and love radical Islam hate Trump, we know he is doing the right thing.
Who is "we"?


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As a matter of fact, I would use liberals as a perfect reverse barometer- if libs hate a politician, they are probably a good one.
Cool. It's best to keep it simple like that. Decisions are hard sometimes.
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Old Today, 07:29 AM
 
Location: SW Virginia
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In a nutshell, that is the root of all evil's today.
Late to respond and I only read some of the replies, but I sure do agree.
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Old Today, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Yea that would be your emotional reaction to the increased visibility of the bad things that have always happen but have not always been visible rather than a rational understanding of the actual statistical rates of violence. As well as some wire that got crossed in your brain that equates being confused about your gender at a similar level with mass murder, pedophialia, and human trafficking.
NOT emotional... You are thinking statically. I'm thinking dynamically. You probably aren't even considering (or have never heard about) the mass murders that were planned, but got nabbed before they took place. At the end of the day, mass murder, using violent behavior and destruction for political gain - these are not good indicators of a healthy society. The outward behavior are symptoms of what's inside of people.

In God's world, the things I mentioned are all sins that can have a negative effect down the road.
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Old Today, 07:36 AM
 
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NOT emotional... You are thinking statically. I'm thinking dynamically. You probably aren't even considering (or have never heard about) the mass murders that were planned, but got nabbed before they took place. At the end of the day, mass murder, using violent behavior and destruction for political gain - these are not good indicators of a healthy society. The outward behavior are symptoms of what's inside of people.

In God's world, the things I mentioned are all sins that can have a negative effect down the road.
Statically outlying "Bad" behavior like mass murders, sprees, etc are expected in any sufficiently large population due to natural human variance. As population grows more events happen, more events happening make the perception feel like it is getting worse, but per capita it maintains a reasonably stable occurrence rate. Sure there may be years when it spikes and years when it is lower, but on average it is a pretty stable rate of crazies - not really going up, not really going down. Judging a society by the extreme mentally ill statistical outliers is not really a good way to get a picture anyway, any large enough population is going to have some occurrence rate of psychotic crazy people, more concerning would be the less heinous and far more common every day type of crimes and violence that are committed by "sane" non statistically outlying members of the population, most of which have been falling at a pretty steady rate for quite a while.

So no, I don't buy what you are trying to say here. It simply isn't supported by data.
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Old Today, 07:36 AM
 
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You think the above study is about the US? Did you read it? It never mentions the US. Norway is the main country that was looked at this post there is passing reference to a couple of other European nations.

I went and read the actual study the article is about. It was set in Norway, which is not part of the US It is an interesting article, thank you for sharing,

Most interesting is that they statistically rules out any influences from parents, but instead attribute the trend in Norway to environmental influences.



I am not sure why you think this page about average IQ statically not over time is more relevant than the page actually about IQ over time by nation that I linked to in the post you quoted.

Fair enough, it does show that IQ's are declining though, at least in those test areas...right ?


And I can't fathom how parental influences don't account for anything.


Which child would one think would have a higher IQ and a better chance in life ? Mama June's or Neil Degrasse Tyson's ?
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Old Today, 07:43 AM
 
Location: Western North Carolina
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In a nutshell, that is the root of all evil's today.
I agree. That and GREED.
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Old Today, 08:00 AM
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I agree with the OP, I have my opinions as a Christian but I think most here know them and are probably sick of hearing it.
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Old Today, 08:12 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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Statically outlying "Bad" behavior like mass murders, sprees, etc are expected in any sufficiently large population due to natural human variance. As population grows more events happen, more events happening make the perception feel like it is getting worse, but per capita it maintains a reasonably stable occurrence rate. Sure there may be years when it spikes and years when it is lower, but on average it is a pretty stable rate of crazies - not really going up, not really going down. Judging a society by the extreme mentally ill statistical outliers is not really a good way to get a picture anyway, any large enough population is going to have some occurrence rate of psychotic crazy people, more concerning would be the less heinous and far more common every day type of crimes and violence that are committed by "sane" non statistically outlying members of the population, most of which have been falling at a pretty steady rate for quite a while.

So no, I don't buy what you are trying to say here. It simply isn't supported by data.
Mass murders are now expected. Good luck with that. Didn't used to be that way.
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Old Today, 08:13 AM
 
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I would call it de-evolution.

Evolution is the survival of the "fittest", which means that organism that is able to adapt to the environment and reproduce the most. It does not mean the strongest, it means the best ability to pass on one's genetics.

Evolution has been halted in humans. We fund and support the organisms that are least "fit" to survive in this environment. So we have the least intelligent and least capable reproducing at a far greater rate than those who are the best adapted in our current environment.

The result? Average IQ in America is going down one point every decade. We are essentially breeding a nation of morons, as the people who are the most intelligent, most productive, and most capable have far fewer children than a welfare queen.

We are de-evolving. It harkens to the group "Devo" (The first album was great, but went downhill fast after that). Check out the move "Idiocracy" with Luke Wilson- it is hilarious, but unfortunately has a sad ring of truth.
*watches space X of rocket landing itself..
Yup, we’re in devolution. Only a devolved mind could create that..
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