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Old 08-08-2019, 03:43 PM
 
Location: FL
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If 20 dead first and second graders at Sandy Hook Elementary School didn't move legislatures to revise gun safety and ownership requirements in this country, nothing will.
Exactly!
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:44 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Knee jerk legislation is often more damaging in the long term than whatever it is designed to prevent or keep us safe from. Cooler heads should always prevail in the wake of emotional events that can cause people to lose their wits temporarily and make decisions that logic would show to be unwise. A two week mandatory waiting period between an event and legislation designed to prevent future occurrences of that event would ensure that at least some of the initial knee jerk tendencies are taken out of the decision making. It would also prevent politicians from taking advantage of tragedies to further their pre-existing agendas.
Why? There isn't even legislation designed to prevent recurrence even TWO YEARS after the event. hell, there isn't any legislative action on this EVER because the only altar at which NRA and conservatives worship is unrestrained weapons proliferation. So I'm not sure what knee jerk legislation you expect to see. All I expect to see is more of the exact same status quo.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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We have a short attention span. Horrific tragedies are forgotten in two weeks.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:50 PM
 
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If 20 dead first and second graders at Sandy Hook Elementary School didn't move legislatures to revise gun safety and ownership requirements in this country, nothing will.
Not a good idea to pack defenseless children into unsecured spaces. I blame the inherently dangerous govt schools and a lack of security for the tragedy.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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It is rather odd that some are always proposing waiting periods for some things (abortion, legislation, etc..) while at the same time thinking people should be able to have immediate access to guns.
None of those waiting period proposals involve a constitutionally protected right.

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Perhaps this should be the gun purchase route:


“How about we treat every young man who wants to buy a gun like every woman who wants to get an abortion:
– mandatory 48-hour waiting period,
– parental permission,
– a note from his doctor proving he understands what he’s about to do,
– a video he has to watch about the effects of gun violence…
Let’s close down all but one gun shop in every state and
– make him travel hundreds of miles,
– take time off work, and
– stay overnight in a strange town to get a gun.
Make him walk through a gauntlet of people holding photos of loved ones who were shot to death, people who call him a murderer and beg him not to buy a gun.”
Perhaps you should realize that abortion isn’t addressed in the constitution. (Note, I have no issue with abortion as long as the government isn’t providing or paying for it)

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Sure -- it takes time to ensure legislation is written properly, etc.. I think the process in place to pass legislation takes that into consideration. Takes longer than two weeks to pass any legislation.

But something you seem to be overlooking -- none of the gun control legislation being proposed is 'new'...it really isn't any knee jerk reaction. The proposed legislation have been proposed many times over the years. That's hardly a knee jerk reaction.
Of course it isn’t new. Progressives have a stock of proposals ready to go, waiting for their next chance to infringe on our rights by taking advantage of tragedy.

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There have been at least 17 deadly mass shootings in the US so far in 2019
https://abcnews.go.com/US/deadly-mas...ry?id=63449799

It seems they have had more than 2 weeks. McConnell needs to come back and do his job.
Perhaps the people who wrote the legislation should go back and write some that would actually be effective and constitutional.

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If 20 dead first and second graders at Sandy Hook Elementary School didn't move legislatures to revise gun safety and ownership requirements in this country, nothing will.
Yeah, the actions of a lunatic do not and should not have any legal effect on those of us who aren’t lunatics.

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The bill was already written and voted on by the House before the latest shootings. McDonothing did nothing about the bill.
Yep, the Progressive controlled house passed it. Luckily they don’t have the Senate and McConnell can keep stupid legislation from coming to a vote.
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So now you want the government to take people's guns away who have broken no laws; killed, injured, attacked, or even threatened no one; simply because they think he MIGHT do some of those things in the future? With no "due process of law", no jury trial, no nothing?

Your high school civics teacher would be proud of you.

(snicker)
Remember that progressives don’t care about individual rights. In their eyes we are all subservient to the state.

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So much for the "mentally disturbed person pulled the trigger, not the gun" based solution.

People have the right to due process so lets lock up the guns instead.
My guns are secure. The actions of the mentally deranged have no bearing upon my rights.
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Old 08-08-2019, 03:58 PM
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Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Give it a couple weeks and let things calm down before charging in to do something when everyone has heightened emotions. Stay on vacation Mitch.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...233630997.html
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Give it a couple weeks and let things calm down before charging in to do something when everyone has heightened emotions. Stay on vacation Mitch.

https://www.kentucky.com/news/politi...233630997.html

When wasn't the do nothing Mitch ever not on vacation?
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:22 PM
 
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Just reading the pro gun no matter what comments here tells you why a sensible solution to the murder by guns issue is as it is. So many nuts out there think there should be absolutely no restriction to guns for anyone. It blows my mind to think there are so many crazy people in the US. Even more frightening to think these people also likely possess guns.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:37 PM
Status: "Now I know how Joan of Arc felt ..." (set 5 days ago)
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Over 857 million law-abiding gun owners did not shoot anyone today.
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Old 08-08-2019, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Over 857 million law-abiding gun owners did not shoot anyone today.
Well that’s a relief.
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