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Old 08-08-2019, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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You can support your country and still not be a fan of the president, that's not hard.
It was okay for them to hate Obama but if you somehow disagree with Trump or his policies you hate America.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:20 PM
 
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Tell that to American farmers:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/08/06/chin...s-economy.html
'With China officially pulling out of buying U.S. agricultural products, American farmers are losing one of their biggest customers. It could be a devastating blow in an already tough year for crops and commodity prices. It may also dent U.S. gross domestic product and hurt companies like Deere, whose business is directly tied to farming in the Heartland.
What is your point?

I can pick up the phone and call home if I want to talk to farmers and tell them things they already know.

Nice of you to suddenly care about them though.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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Cool story.

The tariffs are backfiring on Trump, though. China is calling Donny's bluff at every turn.

China is OWNING Trump right now.
I don't know, since everyone is emotional and the stock market dropped it allowed some of us to buy on the dip and now it's back up. It will go up, then down, then up. Stay emotional
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:25 PM
 
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You can support your country and still not be a fan of the president, that's not hard.
Just the same as you can support the right of Israel to exist but not support what they are doing and not be anti-Semite.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:46 PM
 
Location: sumter
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It was okay for them to hate Obama but if you somehow disagree with Trump or his policies you hate America.
Absolutely, and they really hated Obama, but you just can't Trump.
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:48 PM
 
Location: sumter
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Just the same as you can support the right of Israel to exist but not support what they are doing and not be anti-Semite.
I have no problem with Israel, or what you said. I had a Jewish roommate, and many Jewish friends when I lived in Highland Park Il. No issues with me, and never was. Thanks
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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China will never reveal how the tariffs are hurting them. It would go against what they believe in. And they would lose face and that is something they will not allow. So they will ignore the issue until a political change occurs in the US.
Well let's consider your assumption for a second; if you've got it figured out while not being involved in the higher echelons of the current administration howkum Trump with all of his international financial savvy and all those supposedly giving him advice didn't before they embarked on a strategy of failure?

If, as you say, China will continue to ignore the issue until a change occurs in the U.S.; it would appear they have the ability to do that while America does not. Perhaps the stable genius should have factored that into his idiotic call for a tariff war with China?

Just say'n.

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Old 08-08-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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China will never reveal how the tariffs are hurting them. It would go against what they believe in. And they would lose face and that is something they will not allow. So they will ignore the issue until a political change occurs in the US.
It must hurt them somewhere. But potentially much less than here, since there is more that they can do with their secretive central command and relative lack of open politics.

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/ne...atch-in-china/
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Rutherfordton,NC
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Absolutely, and they really hated Obama, but you just can't Trump.
Thatís because Trump supporters are all about party NOT country thatís why you donít see any of them denying their hate for Obama. Double standards apply here.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:29 PM
 
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China owns $1.1 trillion in US Treasuries. Flood the market with those and prices collapse. Interest rates skyrocket. Cats and dogs living together...mass hysteria.
China loses too. They lose with Treasury value. And they still need USD's when doing business out in the world. That is a no win situation for them.
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