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Old 08-08-2019, 05:52 PM
 
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Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
Because it's an idiotic idea that will fail..........
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:52 PM
 
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We bought a electric car this year... saves us $240 each month in fuel savings.

$6.5 pr gallon.
How much more did you pay for it than a comparable fossil fueled car?
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Old 08-08-2019, 05:56 PM
 
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The main differences are that the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes in Norway, but the wealthy have purchased the Republican Party and do not pay their fair share in the United States. These taxes are then spent on infrastructure, education, and improving the overall quality of life. In the United States these taxes are spent on wars and defense contractors while our infrastructure crumbles and our schools barely make the grade.

Furthermore, the people in Norway are very healthy, due to easy availability of medical care and better education and regulations on meat, dairy, produce, etc., which keeps the Frankenfoods out of their daily diet. Healthy, educated, and having their essential needs met would make anyone happier than your average ignorant, obese, broke and lacking medical care Republican voter (who, of course, votes to continue this broken system that encourages abuse).

And now their air quality and improves and their dependance on fossil fuels decreases. They keep getting better, while we regress under Trump.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:00 PM
 
Location: USA
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It's ironic that so many on the Left want us to be more like the Scandinavian countries, which are overwhelmingly White.
Leftist can't make up their minds, they hate white European colonizers, but want to emulate them In reality the Socialist here have more in common with Latin American Socialist, like Castro(Fidel and his Texan name sakes), Chavez, Maduro, Ortego, and AOC.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
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Norway is approximately 323,802 sq km, while United States is approximately 9,833,517 sq km. Meanwhile, the population of Norway is ~5.3 million people (321.3 million more people live in United States).
This is why. The infrastructure it would take to implement this here would be tremendous and extremely costly. I also don't think the technology is there, not yet at least. If we can figure out a way to fully charge a vehicle in the same time it takes to fill one up with petrol, I think we'd see it go somewhere. I think this plan works for small European countries, but USA is just too large. I agree, something needs to be done and I'd love to see more affordable, electric cars and companies, but I just don't see it happening here in the foreseeable future. I don't think it will happen in my lifetime (young adult).
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
If we had a million barrels of oil per person like Norway and a near homogenous Nordic population, we could do it....since we don't, not going to happen.

Good for norway, they mine tons of oil and sell it for others to burn to pollute the planet.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Washington State
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Because it's an idiotic idea that will fail..........
I like your response even better than mine.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:12 PM
 
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The main differences are that the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes in Norway, but the wealthy have purchased the Republican Party and do not pay their fair share in the United States. These taxes are then spent on infrastructure, education, and improving the overall quality of life. In the United States these taxes are spent on wars and defense contractors while our infrastructure crumbles and our schools barely make the grade.

Furthermore, the people in Norway are very healthy, due to easy availability of medical care and better education and regulations on meat, dairy, produce, etc., which keeps the Frankenfoods out of their daily diet. Healthy, educated, and having their essential needs met would make anyone happier than your average ignorant, obese, broke and lacking medical care Republican voter (who, of course, votes to continue this broken system that encourages abuse).

And now their air quality and improves and their dependance on fossil fuels decreases. They keep getting better, while we regress under Trump.
Your support for a hugely white population with massive oil wealth is duly noted. Racist.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:13 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
You don't see the hypocrisy? Norway's North Sea Oil Platforms are major producers of crude.

Another thing. They are resource rich with a relatively low population. You also might want to take a look at their position on ME refugees....

They do have an amazing health care system.
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Old 08-08-2019, 06:23 PM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
You mean this Norway??

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...in-renewables/

Norway is particularly invested in oil. The country maintains one of the largest sovereign wealth funds in the world, built on the profits of the state's oil industry. The so-called Government Pension Fund has assets worth more than $1 trillion.
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