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Old 08-09-2019, 06:46 AM
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Yep. One of Norway's largest (if not the largest) sources of revenue is North Sea oil drilling.


So they are going to give up those drilling rights and revenue, too....right???
Haha, and if they refuse to drill that oil they will either have a Russian or Chinese or American flag flying over their capital. This is what happens when you let liberal children make decisions.
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:53 AM
 
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It's ironic that so many on the Left want us to be more like the Scandinavian countries, which are overwhelmingly White.
This, +1.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:58 AM
 
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Republican points... they have oil and are white, and a small country, with just 5.7 Million people. That means the US can't do anything like them.


But, that has nothing to do with its polices.


Sweden, Denmark, Finland has the same polices.. and guess what.. they all rank higher then most countries in quality of life, happy people, health, financial security, trust in government etc etc etc...

Capitalism with a strong safety net for ordinary people that needs help WORKS.

Its not because we are white.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Norway is pretty much "the land of the ice and snow". Wouldn't they want a little global warming to warm things up just a bit?
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:05 AM
 
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https://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...-a7065616.html

Norway is increasingly seen as the envy of the world. It is FIRST place in the world happiness index. It is #5 in median income (U.S. is behind at #8). It has a debt-to-GDP ratio of -90.5 percent. In other words it has a national surplus, not a national debt.

Norway has obviously made a lot of good decisions. Now they are making another good decision by banning the sale of fossil-fuel-powered vehicles by 2025. Not the 2030 plan of Gov. Jay Inslee, which was seen as way too ambitious and radical but 2025.

Can someone please explain to me why we are not following Norway's lead????
Snoreway!
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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"Awesome" Norway poised to ban all fossil-fuel-powered cars by 2025!


They are blessed with abundant hydro-electric power, they should take full advantage of it.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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So ,how far are the electric cars going to go when its -10c, 6 months a year.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:23 AM
 
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The main differences are that the wealthy pay their fair share in taxes in Norway, but the wealthy have purchased the Republican Party and do not pay their fair share in the United States. .
lol.

Hang on. That's the main difference between Norway and the US? Effective tax rates on the wealthy?

I'm not even sure how to approach that statement.

In addition, Norway has much higher marginal tax rates on the middle class than the US, not to speak of VAT. Go figure. No inheritance tax. I think that the property taxes are much lower there.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Republican points... they have oil and are white, and a small country, with just 5.7 Million people. That means the US can't do anything like them.


But, that has nothing to do with its polices.


Sweden, Denmark, Finland has the same polices.. and guess what.. they all rank higher then most countries in quality of life, happy people, health, financial security, trust in government etc etc etc...

Capitalism with a strong safety net for ordinary people that needs help WORKS.

Its not because we are white.

First, I want to compliment you on stating the truth-that the system of Norway and other Scandinavian countries is capitalist, and not socialist. You used the proper term-it is capitalism that allows that strong safety net to exist.

I agree that this system works there, and not because they are white. It works because they have a relatively uniform culture, where everyone has a common interest in contributing. In the limited time I've spent in Norway on business, I have found the people to be warm and welcoming. Even Oslo feels much more like a small town than a major city (and really, it is a fairly "small town" by our standards. The population of the entire nation is only about 5 million, less than several of our metro areas). The system works IMO because of that common bond. People are willing to contribute a very high portion of their earnings to this safety net because most others also contribute, and have things in common with them.

My understanding is that this attitude is changing rather quickly with the massive infusion of immigrants from other continents. People who do not share that common culture. That do not recognize the need to work and contribute. That simply want the products of that "safety net"-and feel no need to earn it. Please, if there are people here from those nations, feel free to correct me if I am wrong.

The situation in this nation is significantly different. We have a significant portion of this nation already that feels no desire to contribute or earn their keep. That is comfortable taking what they did not earn. That demand that they be provided for with no effort of their own. In addition, we are divided in a number of other ways. The urban/small town-rural divide and the conservative/liberal divide we have among both our people and our political parties contributes. As does the massive infusion of illegals. Keep in mind that we have several times as many criminal aliens in this nation than Norway's entire population. We appear (I'd have to check stats) to have a much more violent culture and one more accepting of criminal acts.

So-to implement a Scandinavian style safety net-how do we first turn the culture of the US more into that of Scandinavia? How do we get people to first, care about other people? Our society has a wanton disregard for life. How do we get people off the welfare roles and contributing to this nation? How do we get people to accept the highly regressive taxes of those nations? How do we get people to utilize that safety net only when they need it-not as a lifestyle? In short-American culture is not Norwegian culture.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:27 AM
 
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Republican points... they have oil and are white, and a small country, with just 5.7 Million people. That means the US can't do anything like them.


But, that has nothing to do with its polices.


Sweden, Denmark, Finland has the same polices.. and guess what.. they all rank higher then most countries in quality of life, happy people, health, financial security, trust in government etc etc etc...

Capitalism with a strong safety net for ordinary people that needs help WORKS.

Its not because we are white.
It would be interesting to hear about all the counterexamples. From where I sit, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, Norway all seem to rhyme in a lot of ways.

It looks to me like you simply made the point you were trying to argue against.
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