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Old Today, 12:25 PM
 
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Absolutely. Then they have the gall to further blame us Americans for all the world's condition and behaviors. It's just beyond the pale. The left are all liars and don't really care about the poor and foreign. They just have animus for Americans and the foreigners serve a useful purpose to them is what I believe.

The right is full of liars and thieves. We have plenty of room. Hell, we could take all the population of Central America and move them out to WY, ID ETC and we would never know it.
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Old Today, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Most were released anyway and given a date to return for further evaluation. Iíll bet most never show up, which has been one the main problems apart from our laws not being enforced in the first place. Itís sad for the kids but the parents created this situation. Itís funny how nobody worries about their kids when theyíre dragging them through rivers and desert and rock, but then when ICE comes theyíre all concerned. The MSM only mentions the kids when itís something like this.
I watched the story on news last night. The little girl sobbing on the steps for her Dad. Very heartbreaking. Sheís an anchor baby and will grow up voting Democrat, so MSM should be happy about that.
Most do NOT show and do not leave. What a joke.

And yes, it's very sad for the kids, but people should be blaming the parents and those in charge of hiring them. I can't believe the people supporting criminals like this when they haven't posted any concern over Americans.

It's absolutely disgusting.
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Old Today, 12:29 PM
 
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They will probably fine the employers. Maybe some will be prosecuted. The employers are known individuals and need not be arrested to be identified. I don't disagree there should be more penalty for employers, but employers are citizens and certainly deserve more due process than illegals who know they are themselves illegal. Why do you assume nothing will happen to the employers?
Because I haven't heard about anything happening to employers where this has been a problem for years.
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Old Today, 12:30 PM
 
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The right is full of liars and thieves. We have plenty of room. Hell, we could take all the population of Central America and move them out to WY, ID ETC and we would never know it.
Yeah, yeah. Or we just could remove all the illegals or at least deter them and reap all the benefits of it. We are being overpopulated by illegals in most every town and city. We know they are here. They are seen and heard everywhere as obvious as can be.
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Old Today, 12:31 PM
 
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Most were released anyway and given a date to return for further evaluation. Iíll bet most never show up, which has been one the main problems apart from our laws not being enforced in the first place. Itís sad for the kids but the parents created this situation. Itís funny how nobody worries about their kids when theyíre dragging them through rivers and desert and rock, but then when ICE comes theyíre all concerned. The MSM only mentions the kids when itís something like this.
I watched the story on news last night. The little girl sobbing on the steps for her Dad. Very heartbreaking. Sheís an anchor baby and will grow up voting Democrat, so MSM should be happy about that.
Because federal law enforcement agencies do not have custody of children in rivers in Honduras, Guatemala or Mexico so there is little they can do at that point even as heartbreaking as that situation is. At that point it is more up to the policies and general safety conditions of all the countries involved. And yes there has been a lot of news coverage from the journey through Central America. But once the children are in custody it is 100% the responsibility of ICE and any other federal or state agencies involved, of any. So sad you have to bring partisan politics to this issue especially tying to speculate how a little girl will vote. Wow people here keep surprising me. Completely lost faith in humanity
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Old Today, 12:33 PM
 
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Because I haven't heard about anything happening to employers where this has been a problem for years.
I have heard of fines and some prosecutions of employers. I don't disagree there needs to be more and I loath these employers, but on the other hand they are citizens and deserve more due process and benefit of the doubt than the illegals. You seem to favor illegals over citizens honestly.
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Old Today, 12:35 PM
 
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Look the law is clear. If there is a court order for you to leave the country then it must be upheld. It's the way it's handled that I have a problem with. Kids are innocent and traumatizing innocent children is not the answer. Take them out of the country but do it in a humane way. Leaving kids with no parents is cruel and unnecessary. Stop the hate, it's not a productive emotion.
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Old Today, 12:36 PM
 
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Maybe, but I never said I agree or not with ICE not arresting the employers, or releasing 300 maybe because they have an anchor baby? I just want all the illegals and their children including the anchor babies sent to their home country together.
Laughable how the poster you are replying to complains about these kids being separated from their parents when all those that had kids were released shortly to go back to be united with them. IMO, they shouldn't be able to use their kids as pawns to be released back into our society. We're damned if we do and damned if we don't with these liberal fools. Those kids were held in schools until their parents came back to get them so what's the big deal? It shouldn't matter if they were anchor babies or brought here illegally by their parents either no law breaker should get a pass just because they have kids.

As for the employers, I read a headline that said that ICE was targeting them along with these illegal aliens. If these illegals were sent back home because they have kids why shouldn't the employers be able to do also until their cases are heard? The pro-illegals never put any blame on the illegals themselves. They weren't dragged over our border to work here and break our laws. They are equally guilty of breaking the law. There is no innocent party here.

And yes, you are right there have been several employers who have been convicted of "knowingly" hiring illegal aliens so it's pure nonsense that that the employers are being given a pass.
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Old Today, 12:39 PM
 
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Most of them come here to work and create a better life for their families...
Which makes them economic migrants, not political refugees eligible for asylum.

Unfortunately, nearly all of these economic migrants are falsely claiming refugee status in order to gain asylum. Pretending otherwise does little to resolve the issue.

Moreover...if there is one thing we're not suffering from, it's a shortage of economic migrants from Mexico and Central America. We already have tens of millions of them. They're all over the place. America may have a lot of problems, but a paucity of economic migrants from south of the border just ain't one of them.
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Old Today, 01:24 PM
 
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I have heard of fines and some prosecutions of employers. I don't disagree there needs to be more and I loath these employers, but on the other hand they are citizens and deserve more due process and benefit of the doubt than the illegals. You seem to favor illegals over citizens honestly.
I don't favor illegals over citizens. I just think both issues should be addressed. They cause trauma to these poor children by making a show of these raids, then do nothing or very little about the employers. Trump's organizations are as guilty as anybody. Big man, big mouth. How many years has he had illegals working at Mar-A-Lago and other places? Wasn't a problem until now.
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