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Old 08-09-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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It would be really hard to vote for trump if he signs "red flag" confiscation into law. I'm not sure I could stomach voting for the most anti 2nd amendment president ever. I'd probably just stay home. His silly bump stock ban was bad enough, but red flag confiscation is too much.

He must want to purposely lose the election if he does this, or he is gravely mistaken that the people who hate him will suddenly like and support him if he caves, which of course they won't.

I feel betrayed that this is even up for discussion. At least Democrats are upfront and honest with you that they want to take the guns.

There are about 17 states that already have some kind of Red flag law.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Actually, the NRA has called for mental illness records to be included in background checks.

So no, the NRA doesn't support wackos owning guns.
Then why isn't it happening? The NRA owns the right and the center/center-left...
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:00 PM
 
Location: United States
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
That question has gone unanswered
There have been a number of shootings that have been stopped by a good guy with a gun, there is no indication that anyone had any trouble identifying who was who.


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Anyone who wants to own an assualt weapon has a screw loose.
I would say that someone with an irrational fear of an inanimate object is the one with a screw lose.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:04 PM
 
Location: United States
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Then why isn't it happening? The NRA owns the right and the center/center-left...
If the NRA owned them, wouldn't they have included mental illness in background checks by now?

It would seem that the NRA doesn't own them, now does it.

The truth is that there is quite a bit of opposition to including mental illness into the background checks, it's just not from the NRA, who are all for keeping guns out of the hands of people that are truly mentally ill.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:14 PM
 
Location: USA
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While not opposed to better background checks, what sort of background check would have prevented most sensational mass shootings?
Almost none.
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Haiku
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
Actually, the NRA has called for mental illness records to be included in background checks.

So no, the NRA doesn't support wackos owning guns.
The NRA is against expanded background checks so how can they also be for including mental health records with background checks?
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Old 08-09-2019, 01:36 PM
 
Location: United States
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The NRA is against expanded background checks so how can they also be for including mental health records with background checks?
Your ignorance on this subject is showing.

The NRA has a long history of supporting mental illness records being included in background checks.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Then why isn't it happening? The NRA owns the right and the center/center-left...
You have it backwards. The center and right own the NRA-they work for us to protect our civil rights, to teach responsible gun ownership and use and to host firearms competitions.
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Old 08-09-2019, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The will of the people is to not have our civil rights eroded, that is why congress respects the will of the people, and doesn't pass more anti-gun legislation.
Rights come with responsibilities. if the background checks in place now aren't sufficient to stop a nutjob from buying a gun, then they should become deeper and more thorough.

Gun registration is something no law abiding citizen should object to, as registration makes recovery of a stolen gun more likely, and a citizen who commits no crime with a gun should be afraid of it. It's exactly the same as registering a car, or getting a license; taking the responsibilty for the item, so the item's ownership is assured.

Criminals won't register their guns, but if an armed citizenry's legally- owned guns are all registered, it will be far easier to know who the criminals are, and far easier to prosecute them for their crimes.
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Old 08-09-2019, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb The NRA warns Trump

McConnell and tRump will do whatever the NRA tells them to.

And, lucky for them, these two mass murders occurred just as congress goes into summer recess and tRump retreats to his golf club for the next 10 days.

I seriously doubt that either of them will come back to work ready to face down the NRA.

But when this gun debate breaks, it'll be fast and it'll be done and over with. Might not be for a number of years yet, but it will break. As my fellow boomers die off and millennials become the power cohort, it'll be all over.

GOP: owned and operated by the NRA.

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