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Old Today, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Originally Posted by Floorist View Post
The guy at Springfield was stupid, but what law did he break?


You can legally open carry a rifle in Missouri.
You can legally open carry a handgun.
You can legally wear body armor.
You can legally carry ammunition.
Walmarts do not prohibit open carry in Missouri.
He threatened no one.
He had left the store when he was arrested.

Here is the deal, Floorist, a person can go through life making it easy on themselves, or they can make life harder for themselves. We see it all the time, just like those stupid Sovereign Citizens who think they can drive a car, (oh, excuse me, TRAVEL in a car) with no license, insurance, or registration, because they are "freemen".

How any person can think it is not going to be a problem for them to walk around in public with a rifle attached to their body, let alone body armor, and all of that, is simply stupid and indefensible. I can guarantee you that if YOU walked into a store and there was some idiot in full dress military gear, you would not just think nothing of it.

This isn't the old west here anymore, you would hope that by 2019 we would have evolved somewhat. Sadly, it seems a small segment of our population have regressed instead. It is childish and it is stupid, period.
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Old Today, 09:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by katygirl68 View Post
...and failing.
The arrested man had a facebook post where he complained because he couldn't buy ammo at Walmart. He pointed out that he could open carry his loaded weapon in Walmart, but couldn't purchase ammo for it there. And he was peeved.

It doesn't sound like he was a potential shooter, only that he wanted to disrupt the business. And while a Neighborhood Market is a Walmart, it's just groceries and usually a pharmacy. It doesn't sell guns and ammo. So his point was not completely on-target.
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Old Today, 10:06 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jeffdoorgunner View Post
serious question. If you were in the store and armed also...……..could you have shot this guy claiming self defense because you "felt threatened for your life" ?
The armed suspect having his gun (be it hand, rifle, shotgun, or assault weapon) pointed at you or another person makes for a better argument for self-defense. If he was just walking around armed with a handgun, in body armor, and filming himself, the self-defense argument likely is thrown out the window. Now, if he was reaching for his gun and you suspected he would use it on someone, then the self-defense claim arguably carries more weight. The fact he was in body armor, had an assault weapon, and over 100 rounds of ammunition adds to my prev. sentence. It's sad that prev. WalMart shooting didn't turn out like this story.
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Old Today, 10:08 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Thank God he was stopped!
Moscow Mitch going to have more blood on his hands & Trump taking no effective measures to stop domestic terrorism and hate crimes.
Get real, Obama did absolutely nothing during his eaight years. Obama stood by the daily slaughter in Chicago, a young girl invited to the state of the union was later killed in Chicago. what did Obama do?????
Apparently Obama had blood on his hands.


We need effective gun laws not 'more gun laws'.


People who lie on forms to purchase firearms are not prosecuted.


Stealing firearms precludes the need to fill out forms and do NICs checks. So let's see what we can do, Oh, I know, we can register all firearms to make it easier for cops to solve murders after they occur!


Most inner city murders go unsolved because of lack of community cooperation. The killers go on to kill more pople.


The answer is not entirely gun control, legislators have yet to learn that. Until they do , the blood will continue to flow, especially in the inner cities where the death toll dwarfs the 'mass shootings' as defined by the media and hysterical anti gun advocates. Odd, isn't it how the weekly tally in Chicago is not considered a 'mass shooting'. Wipe out the inner city slaughter by gangs fighting for territory or revenge for being dissed, and the death by firearms would be relatively negligible.
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Old Today, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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[quote=Kracer;55891402]Get real, Obama did absolutely nothing during his eaight years. Obama stood by the daily slaughter in Chicago, a young girl invited to the state of the union was later killed in Chicago. what did Obama do?????
Apparently Obama had blood on his hands.


Nope, nope, and nope, Kracer. Can't let you get away with posting that little inaccuracy. Obama fought HARD to try to get new laws passed and new restrictions to try to stop or diminish the way too many incidents of violence where guns were used. But, guess what, the GOP fought him tooth and nail and kept him from getting anything done.

He was absolutely livid and frustrated by the fact they would not go against their biggest donor, the NRA, and they were afraid to anger their gun toting base. He even wept after Sandy Hook and other massacres, and plead with his fellow politicians to stop turning a blind eye to this senseless wholesale slaughter.

If you want to ACCURATELY lay blame, put it where history shows it really should go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijFPMrptrwE



This man wanted change, so don't start blaming him. What has Donald Trump done toward this end? You and I both know the answer to that one, don't we ?
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Old Today, 10:37 AM
 
Location: Denver
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What has Donald Trump done toward this end? You and I both know the answer to that one, don't we ?
He grins and gives a thumbs up next to an orphan child from the El Paso shooting.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...baby-thumbs-up
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Old Today, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Originally Posted by katygirl68 View Post
What the hell is Moscow Mitch about? I’ve seen that a couple of times now and I haven’t looked into it yet.

This is a story of a good guy with a gun stopping a mass shooting. Has nothing to do with Trump or Mitch McConnell. In fact, it completely goes against the narrative y’all are pushing, so I guess you have to deflect.
The good guy with a gun did not stop a mass shooting. He only pulled his gun once the guy was outside. If the gun man had wanted to kill, he would have and it would have been a slaughter like in the other Walmart.
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Old Today, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Get real, Obama did absolutely nothing during his eaight years. Obama stood by the daily slaughter in Chicago, a young girl invited to the state of the union was later killed in Chicago. what did Obama do?????
Apparently Obama had blood on his hands.
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Originally Posted by Kracer View Post
Nope, nope, and nope, Kracer. Can't let you get away with posting that little inaccuracy. Obama fought HARD to try to get new laws passed and new restrictions to try to stop or diminish the way too many incidents of violence where guns were used. But, guess what, the GOP fought him tooth and nail and kept him from getting anything done.

He was absolutely livid and frustrated by the fact they would not go against their biggest donor, the NRA, and they were afraid to anger their gun toting base. He even wept after Sandy Hook and other massacres, and plead with his fellow politicians to stop turning a blind eye to this senseless wholesale slaughter.

If you want to ACCURATELY lay blame, put it where history shows it really should go.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijFPMrptrwE



This man wanted change, so don't start blaming him. What has Donald Trump done toward this end? You and I both know the answer to that one, don't we ?
Excellent post! I would rep ya but gotta spread the love. And this should squash any one who things Obama did nothing. Republicans are the ones who do nothing.
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Old Today, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
The arrested man had a facebook post where he complained because he couldn't buy ammo at Walmart. He pointed out that he could open carry his loaded weapon in Walmart, but couldn't purchase ammo for it there. And he was peeved.

It doesn't sound like he was a potential shooter, only that he wanted to disrupt the business. And while a Neighborhood Market is a Walmart, it's just groceries and usually a pharmacy. It doesn't sell guns and ammo. So his point was not completely on-target.
This begs the question, "Why in the hell does anyone need an assault rifel to go to the grocery store? Is he afraid his pork chops are going to get rowdy and need to be diapatched...?"

And, before anyone starts, when the term "assault rifle" is used here, we ALL know exactly what we are talking about. The Germans created it to describe any military rifle, and Guns & Ammo popularized it in the 70s.
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Old Today, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Get real, Obama did absolutely nothing during his eaight years. Obama stood by the daily slaughter in Chicago, a young girl invited to the state of the union was later killed in Chicago. what did Obama do?????
Apparently Obama had blood on his hands.


We need effective gun laws not 'more gun laws'.


People who lie on forms to purchase firearms are not prosecuted.


Stealing firearms precludes the need to fill out forms and do NICs checks. So let's see what we can do, Oh, I know, we can register all firearms to make it easier for cops to solve murders after they occur!


Most inner city murders go unsolved because of lack of community cooperation. The killers go on to kill more pople.


The answer is not entirely gun control, legislators have yet to learn that. Until they do , the blood will continue to flow, especially in the inner cities where the death toll dwarfs the 'mass shootings' as defined by the media and hysterical anti gun advocates. Odd, isn't it how the weekly tally in Chicago is not considered a 'mass shooting'. Wipe out the inner city slaughter by gangs fighting for territory or revenge for being dissed, and the death by firearms would be relatively negligible.
Best idea in this thread so far.

We need to get on that, stat!
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