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Old 08-13-2019, 11:47 AM
 
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sssshhhhh. People think they're getting a good deal in Florida, let em believe it. States just collect what they need in different ways. They all have a plan for taking it from you.

Likewise, let's let those schmucks in high tax states go on paying their taxes and thinking it's the same everywhere.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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Alabama has a 5% state income tax, while Florida has none. The sales tax is 8% in Baldwin County, Walton County FLA 7%. While taxes are less important to people with little income, and who dont spend much, for me it wouldnt make sense to move to Baldwin County AL over Walton County FL.

Last time we were home shopping in Walton County, my wife had me drive her up to Fairhope AL, and we both thought is was a great little town. Loved the flowers lining all the streets there.[
I agree.

It's one of my favorite towns in the South.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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He also just bought a home in Cascais, Portugal. He gets around. None of the Palm Beach rock stars are year-round residents.
What about Iggy Pop?

Or does he live in another part of the Miami metropolitan area, rather than in Palm Beach?
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/...merican-movers

Wealthy 55+ Americans are fleeing high tax States, and moving to Florida for its lower cost of living and lower taxes; says the study that is the focus of this article.

The headcounts, and sums of money involved in this exodus are staggering. Florida is leading all other states by HUGE margins.

Billions of Dollars are flowing into FLA which stimulates growth in Florida's economy, & boosts tax revenues. The tax revenues in the States these people are fleeing are in a death spiral.

The migration of retirees to Florida is old news, but what is different now is that these trends are accelerating rapidly due to the federal income tax changes that limit property tax deductions. These tax changes prevent high tax States from exporting their high local taxes to other States with lower taxes. The Federal government has built an impenetrable wall around every State that traps its' tax rate within. The only way to escape is to establish permanent residency in a lower tax State...like Florida, Texas, or Nevada. That is what we are experiencing.

It's also newsworthy how much wealthier the people are who are fleeing now, as compared to those who retired to Florida in years past. Florida is now attracting more Millionaires and Billionaires than before, and those are the people that pay the Lions share of the taxes in America.

Florida is in a record breaking economic boom, and the momentum is growing.
One of the only things I don't like about how Florida is constructed/put together/arranged is that car insurance is no-fault.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:30 PM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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This issue with Florida is always the same. A great place to live once you have established an income or career.

But

It is a tuff place to start your career for many. Just not enough jobs outside the service industry to support the young adult population. So I always remind friends that want to move to Florida that: Yes, you can move here but your children may need to relocate to find good paying work if their industry is not Service or construction of some sort. And the schools here are crap for the most part which has caused some companies to avoid relocating to Florida. There is a reason you don't see a ton of Corporate Headquarters in Florida given the weather, good roads, low taxes, governors that give away the kitchen sink to business, and beaches.
While what you stated was true , it's no longer as true. Three of my four kids were college educated in Florida. One has a PHd. One educated in the Marines... and completed his degree on the GI bill after his service.

Primary and secondary education was at A rated schools. All three received some scholarships. They attended USF, UCF, and FAU. Two of my kids still work in Florida, one as an electrical engineer (lockheed) and the other as a nurse/paramedic/firemen in so Florida. My Phd (micro biology) daughter flies between Florida, San Jose and Cambridge. My (ex Marine) son is an Air Traffic controller... and currently is in WV. He'll be back.

Florida has changed, some for the better and some not so much. I've been here since the 70's and all my kids were born and raised here. I'm please with how the state is progressing and excited about our new governor!
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:31 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Likewise, let's let those schmucks in high tax states go on paying their taxes and thinking it's the same everywhere.
exactly, everybody paying their fair share.
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Old 08-13-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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One way to increase badly needed revenue to the federal coffers, albeit a very politically vindicative one
If your state wants to give massive benefits and create a lot of social programs for its residents, don't expect the other states to subsidize them. On the other hand, the only money the states should be sending to the Fed is for common defense.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:14 PM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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If your state wants to give massive benefits and create a lot of social programs for its residents, don't expect the other states to subsidize them. On the other hand, the only money the states should be sending to the Fed is for common defense.
The preamble is my guide. There's more than the "common defense", but that should be the biggie. This will have a price tag, but the states should have more authority, IMO.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Arizona has the same scene with refugees from Kalifornia and Washington state.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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Arizona has the same scene with refugees from Kalifornia and Washington state.
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