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Old 08-14-2019, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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As a long time Floridian (originally from NM) the/our greatest fear is Florida becomes the next California. There's a pattern and it troubles me. Texas is also facing the same pattern.
Lived here for 10 years. My biggest concern is hoodrats from Duval spreading to other areas.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:05 AM
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Location: Florida/Tennessee
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Well criminals have always been a concern... no matter where or when. However some are a bit more brazen since the outward attacks on law enforcement.

To your point, Florida is the #1 state for concealed carry. For the naysayers when they pop in.... those with CCP have the lowest crime rate of any identifiable group, even lower than law enforcement. No need to fear that stat.

Practice makes perfect, 3-3-3. Always be aware of your surroundings.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:17 AM
 
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Southern WA is the real tax haven. No state income tax. Low property tax. No sales tax across the river. Low insurance costs. Choice of affordable and very conservative to the east or still cheap for the west coast and semi-conservative to the west. Mild weather. My whole family is in Florida but I can't take the humidity.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Southern WA is the real tax haven. No state income tax. Low property tax. No sales tax across the river. Low insurance costs. Choice of affordable and very conservative to the east or still cheap for the west coast and semi-conservative to the west. Mild weather. My whole family is in Florida but I can't take the humidity.
I have to say that the humidity is starting to get to me. We're debating whether to stay in the school another 5 years until the youngest graduates or look a bit north to Tennessee or thereabouts.
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Old 08-14-2019, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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The impact of the 2017 limit on SALT deductions is going to be substantial over time. IIRC the top income tax rate in California is now 12.3%. Before you could deduct that from your federal income taxes, but no more. If you have an annual income of, say, $5 million, that's over $600,000 per year you're paying to the state, vs. 0 in FL or WA.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:06 PM
 
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Most of them are rich. They own multiple homes, and have insurance to cover any potential posses. Having money buys your way out of most of the worries the poor and middle class struggle with.

If they see a Hurricane forecast for their area, they jet back to their other residence until the all clear is sounded.

If their place floods, they call their insurance agent to tell them to handle it, and then they jet off to their other place to live until its all cleaned up. This also gives the Misses an opportunity to redecorate the entire place.

Poverty...probably less than what they saw in the places they came from.

Traffic...probably less than the places they came from.
"Most of them are rich. They own multiple homes, and have insurance to cover any potential posses. Having money buys your way out of most of the worries the poor and middle class struggle with."

And you talked PERSONALLY talked with EVERY SINGE ONE OF THEM and asked about their finances!

I live in 1 of the biggest growing counties in the country and I hate to burst your jealous bubble but, you haven't a CLUE!
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:35 PM
 
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Well criminals have always been a concern... no matter where or when. However some are a bit more brazen since the outward attacks on law enforcement.

To your point, Florida is the #1 state for concealed carry. For the naysayers when they pop in.... those with CCP have the lowest crime rate of any identifiable group, even lower than law enforcement. No need to fear that stat.

Practice makes perfect, 3-3-3. Always be aware of your surroundings.
The state has double the crime rate of many....

Are you saying it would be 4X as high if it wasn't for all the guns?
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:39 PM
 
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I have to say that the humidity is starting to get to me. We're debating whether to stay in the school another 5 years until the youngest graduates or look a bit north to Tennessee or thereabouts.
Florida was developed as a winter getaway.

Most people raised in temperate climes cannot handle those heat indexes month after month...

A lot of retired Floridians spend 4-6 months in the North (Mts. of NC all the way up to Maine).....

I lived in TN for 3 years...Summers were extremely hot but there is a lot longer of a period where you can be outside.....

One guy I spoke to recently lives near Hilton Head (I have family there also). He said - and I looked it up to confirm - that he can stand it for 8 months of the year. But those other 4 are brutal.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Florida was developed as a winter getaway.

Most people raised in temperate climes cannot handle those heat indexes month after month...

A lot of retired Floridians spend 4-6 months in the North (Mts. of NC all the way up to Maine).....

I lived in TN for 3 years...Summers were extremely hot but there is a lot longer of a period where you can be outside.....

One guy I spoke to recently lives near Hilton Head (I have family there also). He said - and I looked it up to confirm - that he can stand it for 8 months of the year. But those other 4 are brutal.
It's really only about 2 months of the year that are really bad in north Florida, but they are a really bad 2 months.
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Old 08-14-2019, 01:45 PM
 
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The impact of the 2017 limit on SALT deductions is going to be substantial over time.

After 2025, SALT deductions return. The tax plan has an expiration date. Corporate tax cuts don't expire but the rest of the tax changes expire after 2025.
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