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Old Yesterday, 10:33 AM
 
Location: Houston
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You didn't read the article. One was murdered, for one thing. Secondly, uncontrolled medical bills played a role in their demise.
Most likely anassisted suicide. Bypassed the doctor. He would have been charged with practicing medicine without a license if he had lived.
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Old Yesterday, 10:37 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I am not a very compassionate person compared to most people, I think, but compared to people who think as you do . . .
He is one of the few with the guts to say what many on the right are thinking.
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Old Yesterday, 10:59 AM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Two people freely took their own lives?

And the controversy here is...?

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How many postings before we see a "Trump's a racist and that contributed to this"?
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That's what they SAY, but I'm retired and we take care to keep ourselves well insured. It's not that expensive.
People will find all sorts of reasons to do what they do, and all sorts of people to blame. How long did it take before we heard about "senseless wars" with regard to the root cause of this crime? Yes, murdering one's spouse is a crime.
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The article also does not mention what the "severe medical issues" were. Maybe not wanting to put up with them any longer was a big contributor to their decision
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Should have planned for the future. Not society’s position for those who don’t plan properly.
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Bc they found bills?

Did the people ever say this word for word?

People are too easily manipulated by headlines.
So nice to see the outpouring of empathy here!


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Old Yesterday, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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So nice to see the outpouring of empathy here!


Well, this is the politics forum. I should have expected it
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Old Yesterday, 11:09 AM
 
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The article also does not mention what the "severe medical issues" were. Maybe not wanting to put up with them any longer was a big contributor to their decision
The article says little about any of it. Neighbors said the wife had advanced Alzheimers.
In the best of circumstances, many know very little about their options for Alzheimer patients.
In a little town like Ferndale - that's not even close to "best" of circumstances. I'm not even sure that town has a Doctor - found several Dentists and an Acupuncturist, but no Medical Doctor.
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Old Yesterday, 11:11 AM
 
Location: SGV
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People are encouraged to spend down their assets or transfer them to their kids etc. which is likely what many of those people did.

So, what do you want from "the govt." in this case? Many of those have no significant assets and don't have family that is able or willing to care for them. Do you want the govt. to take more from Soc. Security and then just make nursing homes paid for regardless of assets?
You have to transfer five years prior to going into the nursing home. It used to be 3 but Sammy got wise and greedy(ier).

Some transferred, others didn't. Regardless, it's a deceptive and immoral tactic by the government...even by its standards.

I simply want the government out of it. The rules are in place to steal from these folks or place a huge burden on them to hide as much of their money as possible. And when I say "hide" I literally mean Depression-era tactics of moving a large stone in your basement to find cash. They can go after anything and everything. Some say safety deposit boxes inside banks are safe but in recent years, you guessed it, Sammy has been nosing around those too.

https://nomadcapitalist.com/2014/03/...-confiscation/

Again, I feel sorry for those who believe in the government (and the health care industry is the government by extension) who don't understand that you are only putting money in and not getting anything out.
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Old Yesterday, 11:13 AM
 
Location: SGV
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So nice to see the outpouring of empathy here!


You included me in that list.

There is nothing immoral or illogical about taking one's own life. I will firmly defend that position as a natural right.
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Old Yesterday, 11:15 AM
 
Location: SGV
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Most likely anassisted suicide. Bypassed the doctor. He would have been charged with practicing medicine without a license if he had lived.
Correct.

The State handles the killing. It doesn't need any help from us.
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Old Yesterday, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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You included me in that list.

There is nothing immoral or illogical about taking one's own life. I will firmly defend that position as a natural right.
Agreed. Murder is immoral under almost all circumstances.
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Old Yesterday, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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What a tragedy on so many levels. An elderly husband and wife died in an apparent murder-suicide in Washington state on August 7th. A 77-year-old man called 911 on Wednesday morning saying he planned to die by suicide. Despite attempts by crisis negotiators to stop it, the couple went through with it. Deputies found several notes throughout the home in which the couple expressed despair over high medical bills. If the couple couldn't afford their current medical bills, they would not have been able to afford psychiatric care also. I'm sure other factors contributed to their demise, but financial stresses certainly didn't help.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...about-n1040691
That’s so sad. Many moving to Mexico etc to survive these costs .
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