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Old 08-09-2019, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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But we could do a helluva lot more than we do now if we'd stop going all over the world fighting endless wars of choice for others while crying SOCIALISM! at the mere thought of buying even a Band-Aid for an American.
Could also help a lot more if we didn't have so many illegal aliens in this country sucking up resources.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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It's not clear what they were able--or willing-- to spend on health care beyond what was covered by any insurance they had.

What is clear is that, according to the ME, they both had "significant natural health disease conditions."

https://www.scallywagandvagabond.com...ealthcare/amp/
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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not necessarily. Just that many people/agencies dropped the ball. There were many ways they could have gotten help. Where was the couple's family and friends? Did they not know of their troubles? And did they have medicare? What were the bills that were going unpaid? And the big question, who killed who? Did the husband kill the wife, or the reverse? The article suggests the husband killed the wife.
right.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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This whole scenario makes no sense. If the elderly couple was so destitute that they couldn't afford their medical bills, they'd have already been on Medicaid.
Right and if not, then they would be on Medicare. And I recommend a supplement to pay for what Medicare doesn't cover. My parents' supplement cost about $125 a month. Everything - EVERYTHING - was covered between Medicare and the supplemental insurance.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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Read the article. From the OP's link (my italics):

"Several notes were left citing severe ongoing medical problems with the wife and expressing concerns that the couple did not have sufficient resources to pay for medical care,†the sheriff's statement said.
Well, I am sorry but I think they made a grave error in judgment.

Of course, they BOTH did have serious, ongoing medical issues and that can really cloud one's judgment.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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But we could do a helluva lot more than we do now if we'd stop going all over the world fighting endless wars of choice for others while crying SOCIALISM! at the mere thought of buying even a Band-Aid for an American.
Isn't that the truth.......

A carrier battle group costs about 2.5 million dollars per day, and thats if it isn't dropping bombs.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/...udget-defense/

We have 10 carrier battle groups.

People fret over using tax dollars to fund our health care, but happily as much or more to private insurance companies. Look what the ACA has cost us and what did we get? An old car with no engine transmission or handles on the doors.

Bring the troops home. Cut our spending by 25%. If shipping companies want us to patrol pirate infested waters, let them pay for the service.

Our seniors absolutely deserve better. Just for the record the ACA obviously didn't do anything for these people.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:57 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Please

Illegals don't pay any bills and no one "goes after them". All they had to do was not pay the bills. I'd rather foot the bill for an Americans unpaid bill then someone here illegally from Guatemala soaking tax payers.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Wonderland
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The article says little about any of it. Neighbors said the wife had advanced Alzheimers.
In the best of circumstances, many know very little about their options for Alzheimer patients.
In a little town like Ferndale - that's not even close to "best" of circumstances. I'm not even sure that town has a Doctor - found several Dentists and an Acupuncturist, but no Medical Doctor.
Advanced Alzheimer's is godawful for the spouse and loved ones. I mean, there is simply no good end and the person you loved is gone, gone, gone. Very depressing.

There are facilities available, but a spouse has to be willing to place their spouse in a facility. And in a tiny town, options are limited and so there might be a drive involved - and the husband had serious medical issues as well.

It's a very sad situation. Dementia is a cruel, cruel disease. And there is no real treatment for it - you basically just try to maintain as your loved one loses every shred of who they used to be.
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Old 08-09-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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Could also help a lot more if we didn't have so many illegal aliens in this country sucking up resources.
What sources do you have for your statement and please explain how any of that has a thing to do with this couple?
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Old 08-09-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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What a tragedy on so many levels. An elderly husband and wife died in an apparent murder-suicide in Washington state on August 7th. A 77-year-old man called 911 on Wednesday morning saying he planned to die by suicide. Despite attempts by crisis negotiators to stop it, the couple went through with it. Deputies found several notes throughout the home in which the couple expressed despair over high medical bills. If the couple couldn't afford their current medical bills, they would not have been able to afford psychiatric care also. I'm sure other factors contributed to their demise, but financial stresses certainly didn't help.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...about-n1040691

They expressed despair over high medical bills and their health.

According to the ME, BOTH had "significant" health problems. It's just as possible that they didn't want to spend money on conditions which were, ultimately, incurable.
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