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Old 08-09-2019, 07:57 AM
 
Location: City Data Land
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What a tragedy on so many levels. An elderly husband and wife died in an apparent murder-suicide in Washington state on August 7th. A 77-year-old man called 911 on Wednesday morning saying he planned to die by suicide. Despite attempts by crisis negotiators to stop it, the couple went through with it. Deputies found several notes throughout the home in which the couple expressed despair over high medical bills. If the couple couldn't afford their current medical bills, they would not have been able to afford psychiatric care also. I'm sure other factors contributed to their demise, but financial stresses certainly didn't help.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...about-n1040691
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:43 AM
 
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Sad unfortunately stress over money issues can lead to suicide. Remember in 2010 the year when there was no death tax and people committed suicide before the end of the year so their family would lose the money when estate taxes came back in 2011. I wonder how many people did this during the great recession when they lost everything. I know this Post is supposed to lead to an argument over Medical Care for all(not something i am necessarily against) but we can't help everyone with everything to prevent tragedies like this.
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:50 AM
 
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In an irrational world, full of hypocrisy and legal contradictions, perhaps suicide was the rational choice?
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Old 08-09-2019, 08:56 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Sad unfortunately stress over money issues can lead to suicide. Remember in 2010 the year when there was no death tax and people committed suicide before the end of the year so their family would lose the money when estate taxes came back in 2011. I wonder how many people did this during the great recession when they lost everything. I know this Post is supposed to lead to an argument over Medical Care for all(not something i am necessarily against) but we can't help everyone with everything to prevent tragedies like this.


But we could do a helluva lot more than we do now if we'd stop going all over the world fighting endless wars of choice for others while crying SOCIALISM! at the mere thought of buying even a Band-Aid for an American.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Sad unfortunately stress over money issues can lead to suicide. Remember in 2010 the year when there was no death tax and people committed suicide before the end of the year so their family would lose the money when estate taxes came back in 2011. I wonder how many people did this during the great recession when they lost everything. I know this Post is supposed to lead to an argument over Medical Care for all(not something i am necessarily against) but we can't help everyone with everything to prevent tragedies like this.
Not necessarily. Just that many people/agencies dropped the ball. There were many ways they could have gotten help. Where was the couple's family and friends? Did they not know of their troubles? And did they have Medicare? What were the bills that were going unpaid? And the big question, who killed who? Did the husband kill the wife, or the reverse? The article suggests the husband killed the wife.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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Two people freely took their own lives?

And the controversy here is...?

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Old 08-09-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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What a tragedy on so many levels. An elderly husband and wife died in an apparent murder-suicide in Washington state on August 7th. A 77-year-old man called 911 on Wednesday morning saying he planned to die by suicide. Despite attempts by crisis negotiators to stop it, the couple went through with it. Deputies found several notes throughout the home in which the couple expressed despair over high medical bills. If the couple couldn't afford their current medical bills, they would not have been able to afford psychiatric care also. I'm sure other factors contributed to their demise, but financial stresses certainly didn't help.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...about-n1040691
How many postings before we see a "Trump's a racist and that contributed to this"?
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:19 AM
 
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Two people freely took their own lives?

And the controversy here is...?

You didn't read the article. One was murdered, for one thing. Secondly, uncontrolled medical bills played a role in their demise.
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Two people freely took their own lives?

And the controversy here is...?


Are you just fine with the high suicide rate of veterans over what they saw/did in service to their country too? Should we just sit back and make no attempt at ending that also?
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Old 08-09-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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How many postings before we see a "Trump's a racist and that contributed to this"?
7. You posted that silly idea. No one else suggested any such thing
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