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Old Today, 11:50 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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Too many wackos wandering around in America. The Mental Health System is broken. They won't keep anyone in institutions- release them after 2-3 days, and tell them to follow up on their meds and Counseling at the local clinic. Most won't do that- instead, they WON'T take their meds and they'll use meth! Taxpayers don't want to pay the cost of keeping these crazies locked up, and there are SOOOO many irresponsible legal gun owners. So, this is what we get.
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Old Today, 12:45 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Too many wackos wandering around in America. The Mental Health System is broken. They won't keep anyone in institutions- release them after 2-3 days, and tell them to follow up on their meds and Counseling at the local clinic. Most won't do that- instead, they WON'T take their meds and they'll use meth! Taxpayers don't want to pay the cost of keeping these crazies locked up, and there are SOOOO many irresponsible legal gun owners. So, this is what we get.
It was broken before they closed the doors on the Asylums.
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Old Today, 03:20 PM
 
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It is true that many mass murderers are often loners and/or people with mental issues. However, most people with such conditions don't commit violent crimes. I wonder what it is about some that sets them off to the point of committing such violent acts.
hasn't almost everyone of them had a social media account? This gives them a place to validate their insanity...Ö..
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Old Today, 03:30 PM
 
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I think if 4chan and 8chan could get shut down, mass shootings wouldn't happen. IMO, 4chan and 8chan are the root of the problem.
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Old Today, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Orange County, CA
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I think if 4chan and 8chan could get shut down, mass shootings wouldn't happen. IMO, 4chan and 8chan are the root of the problem.
WTF???!@
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Old Today, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Mid-atlantic
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By your logic, we should lock up everyone with a mental illness or who likes to be alone.
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I never said lock them up, there should be intervention. It's not so simple, most loners are harmless but some have deviant minds should be monitored. They should be scored based on their psychic eval. If you want to prevent future mass murders there needs to be a task force that deals with people who are ticking bombs. Take away the weapons, they will find another way.
An issue for me in the mental health discussion is that people with a problem - addiction or dependency, anti-social behaviors, depression, bullied or rejected, misfits - whatever name you want to put on it - anyone that needs help has to first want the help. Even then, there are no guarantees.

Short of some sort of court ordered institutionalisation, how do we manage or monitor these people in the general population? Who has oversight...and on and on. I hate to drag out the slippery slope factor, but there it is again.

Because nothing gets done in DC, I see this as issue as one that will remain unresolved.
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Old Today, 05:32 PM
 
Location: Ft Myers, FL
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Project funded through National Institute of Justice has found four common elements.

1) "First, the vast majority of mass shooters in our study experienced early childhood trauma and exposure to violence at a young age."

2) "Practically every mass shooter we studied had reached an identifiable crisis point in the weeks or months leading up to the shooting. They often had become angry and despondent because of a specific grievance."

3) "Most of the shooters had studied the actions of other shooters and sought validation for their motives."

4) "The shooters all had the means to carry out their plans. Once someone decides life is no longer worth living and that murdering others would be a proper revenge, only means and opportunity stand in the way of another mass shooting."


https://www.latimes.com/opinion/stor...-shooters-data

Food for thought.
I've also read that report funded by the NIJ. It's the most comprehensive research I've come across thus far that points to common traits of mass shooters.

Too bad not one of those four symptoms are under anyone's control.
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Old Today, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Mesa AZ
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Most MM's come from fatherless homes. When I heard about the extremely horrible childhood Charles Manson endured it didn't surprise me that he turned out like he did.
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Old Today, 06:00 PM
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Location: Columbia, SC
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Blaming guns is not the solution, I believe in some form of gun control but I don't think full gun control will prevent mass murders.

Take the mass murder of 33 people in Japan. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-49027178

The person who started the fire was upset that his personal works was copied by the animation studio so he set the place on fire. No guns and weapons was used.
That sounds like the motivation was revenge or anger and not directly related to mental illness. It's funny that those who say guns are not THE problem then seem to turn around and imply that mental illness is. My hunch? Every situation is different and no one things is directly attributable to every mass murder.
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