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Old Today, 11:12 AM
 
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But they could also be anti-gun advocates; that's would be brilliant. It's certainly effective.
It is? There has been a lot of talk but relatively little has actually been implemented.
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Old Today, 11:14 AM
 
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It is? There has been a lot of talk but relatively little has actually been implemented.
I have no doubt that it will happen with all the public outcry every time it happens; probably sooner rather than later.
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Old Today, 11:19 AM
 
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Too much time spent in this forum, is my pet theory.
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Old Today, 11:26 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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People have always had a) work stress, and b) guns. But people didn't "snap" and "go postal" before SSRIs.


By your logic we should see regular mass murders in places like Iceland, Canada, Australia and Sweden at similar rates to America. Yet we don't.
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Old Today, 11:27 AM
 
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I have 3 causes...
Cowards
Gun Free Zones
Majority of people unarmed in public and unable to return fire.

They come loaded for bear, because the odds are, everyone is unarmed.
It would not matter how "loaded for bear" they are, if they had 10 to 15 guns pointed right back at them.
But you miss my point. If they have the capacity to kill hundreds, why is it always just a few?
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Old Today, 11:32 AM
 
Location: San Jose
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But you miss my point. If they have the capacity to kill hundreds, why is it always just a few?
Because someone stops them or people run away. When they are given time they kill and injure a lot of people. The Vegas shooter killed 60 people and injured 500 in the span of 10 minutes. The shooter in Dayton killed 9 people in less then a minute he could have killed a lot more but he was stopped by the police within a minute of his massacre.
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Old Today, 11:34 AM
 
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I have two: 1) SSRI use, especially in young people, in whom their use is contraindicated due to their tendency to induce both suicidal and homicidal ideation and action and 2) counterintuitively, anti-gun advocates "triggering" events that will advance the cause of gun control and eventual disarmament. Notice that they always come "loaded for bear" with the capacity to kill hundreds, yet only ever kill a dozen.

Yours?
There are people on exactly the same SSRI drugs for depression and anxiety in other countries and they don't go around commiting massacres as guns are not as readily available in modst other westernised countries. The same is also true of those who are "triggered" or have extremist views.

The 2017 Las Vegas shooter killed 58, and the recent Dayton shooter killed nine in 32 seconds, and would have killed a lot more if it were not for a passing police patrol.
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Old Today, 11:36 AM
 
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By your logic we should see regular mass murders in places like Iceland, Canada, Australia and Sweden at similar rates to America. Yet we don't.
It's not all classes of antidepressants; it's the SSRIs specifically. Also, of course easy access to guns plays a role (it's multifactorial), but what is the "trigger" for the loss of impulse control? Assuming, again, it's not a planned strategy.
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Old Today, 11:36 AM
 
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That's easy - firearm availability.
Funny thing that the number of households with guns is dropping over time. According to the NYT, 51% in 1978, 36% in 2016.
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Old Today, 11:39 AM
 
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I have no doubt that it will happen with all the public outcry every time it happens; probably sooner rather than later.
But it still hasn't. I mean, if nothing happened after Sandy Hook, nothing ever will.
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