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Old 08-12-2019, 01:08 PM
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Originally Posted by katharsis View Post
This question is the result of the current thread about the elderly couple's murder-suicide due to their inability to pay their medical bills (and possibly also due to the wife's health problems). One person was courageous (or foolish) enough to imply that he had absolutely no sympathy for them. That led me to wonder how many people would be willing to let the poor die if doing otherwise would put an additional financial burden on them.

So, in order to put some kind of number on it --

What percentage of your income would you be willing to "donate" through an additional tax deduction to help support those U.S. citizens who cannot support themselves? (Just to take the issue of illegal immigration out of the question.)

My answer would be either 0.5% or 1%.

However, my first choice would be to completely overhaul the U.S. healthcare and "welfare" system.

First of all, according to the ME, both the husband and wife had "significant" medical conditions.

Second, your question has no relevance without knowing the financial circumstances of that couple. Do YOU know that?

It's assumed that they were on Medicare. Even so, it's possible that they didn't WANT to spend any or more money on medical care. Given the number of people who "shelter" or distribute assets to preserve them for family members, that's not a far-fetched supposition.

Every state has medical insurance for the indigent; that's why we pay taxes, as some aren't able to provide for their own care.

There is NO indication that this represented the circumstances of this couple, both of whom were seriously ill, and who, also, may not have wanted to spend MORE money on healthcare for conditions which may have been terminal.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:13 AM
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by warhorse78 View Post
I have very little sympathy. Fact is, my family was poor. They came as poor immigrants from Europe during Hitler's reign. And they had no hand outs except maybe a couple of churches to teach them English and help them get established into the community to get jobs. After that, they worked hard, saved money, bought houses and cars and became part of the community until the government came in and shut down all the coal plants with the EPA act. My family became poor once again. My dad and his uncle decided to move to Florida and take advantage of the construction boom going on. They were still poor, but he and my aunt and uncle who were also poor, managed to raise a family without any help from social programs. So, if we can do it, so can anybody.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PriscillaVanilla View Post
The topic is sympathy/compassion, both of which are individual and subjective emotions.

Anecdote, therefore, is perfectly valid as a basis for what is inherently individual and subjective.
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:43 AM
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Too often "poor" people on assistance seem to have luxuries like fancy nails and designer shoes, and brag about them, or going to the mall or salon. I wonder if they feel sorry for the middle class who can't afford frivolous things, because we have property taxes, insurance, home maintenance, health insurance, etc.- endless expenses and work hours just to maintain the basics.
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