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Old 08-09-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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This question is the result of the current thread about the elderly couple's murder-suicide due to their inability to pay their medical bills (and possibly also due to the wife's health problems). One person was courageous (or foolish) enough to imply that he had absolutely no sympathy for them. That led me to wonder how many people would be willing to let the poor die if doing otherwise would put an additional financial burden on them.

So, in order to put some kind of number on it --

What percentage of your income would you be willing to "donate" through an additional tax deduction to help support those U.S. citizens who cannot support themselves? (Just to take the issue of illegal immigration out of the question.)

My answer would be either 0.5% or 1%.

However, my first choice would be to completely overhaul the U.S. healthcare and "welfare" system.

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Old 08-09-2019, 11:05 AM
 
Location: Gulf Coast Texas
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This question is the result of the current thread about the elderly couple's murder-suicide due to their inability to pay their medical bills (and possibly also due to the wife's health problems). One person was courageous (or foolish) enough to imply that he had absolutely no sympathy for them. That led me to wonder how many people would be willing to let the poor die if doing otherwise would put an additional financial burden on you.

So, in order to put some kind of number on it --

What percentage of your income would you be willing to "donate" through an additional tax deduction to help support those U.S. citizens who cannot support themselves? (Just to take the issue of illegal immigration out of the question.)

My answer would be either 0.5% or 1%.

However, my first choice would be to completely overhaul the U.S. healthcare and "welfare" system.
Why go through the government? Give through a charity, church, or give directly.

Also - money is not the only way to help the poor.
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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Why go through the government? Give through a charity, church, or give directly.

Also - money is not the only way to help the poor.
Very true!! However, if the question I asked was actually debated in Congress -- meaning that they were actually considering imposing some kind of "poor tax" -- what would be your personal limit before you would raise 'holy Hades' with your representative or Senator?
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Old 08-09-2019, 11:58 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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For the elderly and children- I have a lot of sympathy. For the mothers that refuse to use birth control- not much. For the lazy- none.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This question is the result of the current thread about the elderly couple's murder-suicide due to their inability to pay their medical bills (and possibly also due to the wife's health problems). One person was courageous (or foolish) enough to imply that he had absolutely no sympathy for them. That led me to wonder how many people would be willing to let the poor die if doing otherwise would put an additional financial burden on them.

So, in order to put some kind of number on it --

What percentage of your income would you be willing to "donate" through an additional tax deduction to help support those U.S. citizens who cannot support themselves? (Just to take the issue of illegal immigration out of the question.)

My answer would be either 0.5% or 1%.

However, my first choice would be to completely overhaul the U.S. healthcare and "welfare" system.
There are already many ways to help out people like the one you are referring to.
Nothing 'new' needs to be done except, perhaps, more education and /or.....and this is a big one.....that kind of educational help from friends and/ family/ their medical contacts.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:23 PM
 
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If you were born with a physical or mental disability (real ones, not fake conditions made up by liberals), then you have my full sympathy and I believe the government should go to great lengths to ensure your well-being.

Everyone else can pound sand, even children of deadbeats.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Kentucky
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Helping the poor should not be a function of the Federal government, it should be done at the state/local level.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Plenty. I'm middle class now, but I've been the child of a middle class family whose poor decisions and mental illness resulted in becoming a poor family. As an adult, I've gone from being a comfortable college grad to fearing homelessness with the simple words, "You have cancer," and then climbed back out through sheer force of will, painstaking planning and sacrifice, hard work, and a heck of a lot of luck.



Life can change in a blink, and I never lose sight of how lucky I am to have been born of above average intelligence, above average drive & work ethic, and above average resilience as well as had those qualities cultivated to their fullest potential long before I hit my first speed bump in adulthood. Yes, I have worked hard, but working hard as an office worker who was smart enough to get a full tuition scholarship to a good college results in something very different than working hard as a retail worker who was never given the benefit of opportunities.


So do I have compassion for the poor? Absolutely. There but for the grace of G-d go I.
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:41 PM
 
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Compassion does not equal give money.... Straw man argument to try to connect the two...
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Old 08-09-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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This question is the result of the current thread about the elderly couple's murder-suicide due to their inability to pay their medical bills (and possibly also due to the wife's health problems). One person was courageous (or foolish) enough to imply that he had absolutely no sympathy for them. That led me to wonder how many people would be willing to let the poor die if doing otherwise would put an additional financial burden on them.

So, in order to put some kind of number on it --

What percentage of your income would you be willing to "donate" through an additional tax deduction to help support those U.S. citizens who cannot support themselves? (Just to take the issue of illegal immigration out of the question.)

My answer would be either 0.5% or 1%.

However, my first choice would be to completely overhaul the U.S. healthcare and "welfare" system.
You already know my answer.
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