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View Poll Results: Is Donald Trump a white supremacist?
Yes. Donald Trump is a white supremacist. 65 27.31%
No. Donald Trump is not a white supremacist. 173 72.69%
Voters: 238. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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That's just naive.

There are white supremacists.

And they have clearly said they feel that this administration is better for them.


That does not mean I think everyone who voted for Trump is a white supremacist.

But like Anti-Fa identifies with the left.
Whtie Supremacists identify with the right.

It is what it is.

Pretending doesn't mean it isn't so.
In all fairness, they will always side with an administration which is tough on immigration.

Trump won't be their ideal (Jewish daughter and son in law), Trump is their lesser of two evils.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:55 AM
 
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No, he hasn't. There aren't any to give a voice to.
Indeed.

Here Is a List of White Supremacist Extremist Organizations in America |

If there was only ONE person who was a white supremacist it would be one to many.
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Old 08-10-2019, 08:41 AM
 
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"Trump wants fewer immigrants from “****hole countries” and more from places like Norway"

Interesting.



Thanks for your replies.

The topic of the poll does not address whether or not we should allow uncontrolled illegal immigration from our southern border (or any other countries, for that matter).

It's a simple question of your opinion on whether President Trump believes that the white race is superior to other races.
The President, like most thinking people of all racial backgrounds who don’t fall for false narratives of the left, understand that the real point is that we should be giving priority consideration to those who are able to come to this country and contribute to our collective success, versus those who come here as liabilities.

The simple, common sense truth is, if you want to build a successful NFL football team, you draft the most talented college football players available, not the least talented. If you want to build a successful business, you hire the most talented employees, not the least talented. You do not hire employees based on their need for a job, you hire based on what the company needs that they may be able to provide.

By that very same common sense measure, the United States of America, Inc., is in essence, a very large corporation to which all citizens are share holders and employees of the company, each of whom have a vested interest personally, and an obligation to their families and fellow employees to make the best decisions which will ultimately promote long term success of this company. When making the decisions of who to allow to join this company (country), it must therefore naturally give priority to those who can contribute the most to the country, rather than those who NEED the most from the country. Success is measured in the collection of assets, not the collection of liabilities, and when liabilities exceed assets, you have bankruptcy.

Being a business man, rather than a career politician, Trump understands this very basic, common sense formula, as should each and every one of you Americans who think of yourselves as marginally intelligent. Spare us the moral superiority of your charitable, politically correct mindset, and tired and worn out social justice memes .... we’re sick of it, not because of our racist tendencies, but because we are not self destructive left wing lunatics, lacking basic common sense.

Would it be racist to favor immigrants from Norway, over those from Somalia? Only if you could honestly say that you consider Somalia a more successful society than that of Norway. Color of skin has nothing to do with such a common sense assessment.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:07 AM
 
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Indeed.

Here Is a List of White Supremacist Extremist Organizations in America |

If there was only ONE person who was a white supremacist it would be one to many.
While there are some very bad actors among that list, there are others that are not unlike the countless numbers of non-white organizations who promote their own self interests too. So, if we’re gonna call out racism, let’s be inclusive, yes? Or do you actually believe the hogwash that suggests that only white people can be racists?

The harsh truth is, the majority of these organizations, (aside the most radical) are collections of people promoting their own self interests, rather than rejecting the interests of others. There are however, groups on both sides who do embody the mindset of hate, and they all should be recognized and condemned.

The biggest difference I see in today’s world is that the non-white racist organizations are promoted and supported systemically, enjoying a national platform for promoting their brand of racism, and actually receive public funding in many cases, while you can’t name one white supremest organization receiving federal funding.

Personally, I see very little distinction between the Aryan Nation, and MEChA, or the Nation of Islam.

I will cite my “white privilege” to feel that way.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:25 AM
 
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Absolutely not. An orange supremacist, yeah.
"An orange"


You must be color blind!
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:28 AM
 
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People who respect the Declaration of Independence and its stated principles and values, followed by support of "The Preamble", and have respect for civic unity, civil rights and social harmony... know that Trump is both Ignorant and a White Nationalist/Supremacist trying to promote the re-spread of white nationalism. We remember Steve Bannon and his white nationalist support background and his now trekking around the globe trying to promote white nationalism. Trump placed him in everything he could, and then there is the other members Trump has selected, who are with White Nationalist ideals, Plutocracy based on the history of wealthy white male dominance of white male supremacy to promote white dominance led by wealthy white men. It was the same agenda that "disregarded the rights of women and spent centuries and decades promoting wealthy white male dominance that was as equally so, of design to keep "poor whites poor" and relegated to the service class to service wealthy white male dominated society. and the world knows of the Racial Based Segregationist Vile.

We also know that these same "wealthy white male dominance of white male supremacy to promote white dominance led by wealthy white men. is the group that coined the phrase "poor whites" and then added the adjective of "trash"... to ensure to separate the poor whites from the well to do white and the wealthy.

Trump grew up in that era, devoted to the ideals of "wealthy white male priviledge"... He learned early he could use the premise of "wealthy white male", to get poor whites to pay him a near worship like cycle of patronizing his every act and word. We knew his daddy was close with the agenda of the KKK... and they changed their last name to appear to be more white Protestant accepted, with the lies of his ancestry of origin.
He talks about Immigrants, yet... both his wives are Immigrants, and he had the audacity to go on a 6 yr madness mission talking and making false claims about Obama... and then he turns and put an "immigrant in the seat of the position of "First Lady"... such a Hypocrite; combine that with the chain migration of her family... yet, he wants to attack "chain migration".

It's that same historical attitude of "I can do anything I want because I'm a wealthy white male. He follows it up with delusional claims that he is "smarter than"... to the insidiousness of claiming himself a genius, because he can promote and stir up racial contention among those who have a history of ingrained racial bias and racial bigotry.



The general nature of the human being is not "greed and vanity" that's why the average person does not engage the vile of that which the greedy and the vain pursue as their self measure. Trump can never understand this, because he was raised from a lineage of men who would do anything for money. There was no moral value within his family's roots, it was a quest for "money".. by whatever means was, has been and is the way he was raised and he has instilled that into his kids.

Trump has no respect for the elements of the America that was laid out the Declaration of Independence, his basis of life is about "wealth by any means" !!! its visible in his amassing of people who have ties, links and interactions with Russian Oligarch and Russian Power Structure, as his aim is to "embrace Putin while he worships Putin's wealth, which was fleeced from the people, and Putin's near dictatorial control of Russia and the Russian People.

There is NO Redeeming value within Trump's make up. He fleeced people trying to pursue education, and abused and by and for greed, promoted a fake charity and has fleeced American cities for decades with greed driven pursuits of tax credits, and he is a documented draft dodgers, the same as that of his father and grandfather.. while his father went on to fleece the military, by the usage of government housing funds for personal profit.

Trump fleeces the HUD via the Section 8 "money he collects", yet he wants to denigrate any non white person who utilize Section 8 funds, especially when those funds does not go into his pocket. He is documented as promoted racist acts with properties, many of which were acquired with proceeds that have roots and history in his daddy fleecing the military government house building programs.

People who have been trained to worship "wealthy" are blind to what they want to be blind to, because they have been trained like "Serfs" to worship and put their faith in the wealthy; This is primarily a big segment of his base supporters mentality. They stand in defeat of themselves to allow the wealthy driven by the madness Trump possesses to roll back "environmental protections" and those protection protect areas that are populated by the working class poor and the dire poor, who are both uneducated and willfully ignorant of the need to become educated about their own environmental well being.

This information will never be embraced by those who are in worship like devotion to "plutocrats" and they have less understanding and no concern for the true values of what is the basis of design of American Democracy. They are by choice "accepting of being willfully ignorant of the value of diversity" and selfishly groomed to fight against "Equality"... with a vain hope the wealthy white male dominance of white male supremacy designed to promote white male dominance led by wealthy white men... will one day give them something. Its a classic example of what the word "SAVAGE" means (lacking the restraints normal to civilized human beings, belonging to a primitive sect within an otherwise civil and civic and social equality responsible society, drive by greed, gluttony and lust of every sort that is vile, brutal, rude or unmannerly and of a generalized violent mentality both in ideal and acts) A savage will pursue being of savagery!!! Those who choose to embrace such, do so.. because that is the nature of what is a savage.

All America and the Nations of the World - see the cycles of racial madness that has been (the) hallmark trait of Trump; it is a damaging force that has promoted every kind of racial and ethnic contention and chaos that he has devoted himself to creating... with and among a group of "serf" groomed people... All of such group.."Acting" with the same mentality as those who were led into supporting the same type of conduct supported by the vile of Hitler and his Regime in his acts to decimate the Jews.. while they hoped to covet anything and everything the Jews had, to the point they cast a blind eye to the mass murders that Hitler engaged.

In the 21st Century for America to have such ignorance and madness of racial ignorance and racial vile being promoted from within the White House Administration.... is an Atrocity that has shocked the world... and it will not prevail to achieve its agenda of recreating the racial madness of the past.



As LBJ Said:
" know that Trump is both Ignorant and a White Nationalist/Supremacist"


Thank you for your VERY BIASED one side OPINION.


Like they say, "opinions are like a.. holes. Everybody has one"
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:34 AM
 
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Is Donald Trump a white supremacist?


Are all those who support black politicians BLACK nationalists?
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:44 AM
 
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The President, like most thinking people of all racial backgrounds who don’t fall for false narratives of the left, understand that the real point is that we should be giving priority consideration to those who are able to come to this country and contribute to our collective success, versus those who come here as liabilities.

The simple, common sense truth is, if you want to build a successful NFL football team, you draft the most talented college football players available, not the least talented. If you want to build a successful business, you hire the most talented employees, not the least talented. You do not hire employees based on their need for a job, you hire based on what the company needs that they may be able to provide.

By that very same common sense measure, the United States of America, Inc., is in essence, a very large corporation to which all citizens are share holders and employees of the company, each of whom have a vested interest personally, and an obligation to their families and fellow employees to make the best decisions which will ultimately promote long term success of this company. When making the decisions of who to allow to join this company (country), it must therefore naturally give priority to those who can contribute the most to the country, rather than those who NEED the most from the country. Success is measured in the collection of assets, not the collection of liabilities, and when liabilities exceed assets, you have bankruptcy.

Being a business man, rather than a career politician, Trump understands this very basic, common sense formula, as should each and every one of you Americans who think of yourselves as marginally intelligent. Spare us the moral superiority of your charitable, politically correct mindset, and tired and worn out social justice memes .... we’re sick of it, not because of our racist tendencies, but because we are not self destructive left wing lunatics, lacking basic common sense.

Would it be racist to favor immigrants from Norway, over those from Somalia? Only if you could honestly say that you consider Somalia a more successful society than that of Norway. Color of skin has nothing to do with such a common sense assessment.
You said:
" Spare us the moral superiority of your charitable, politically correct mindset, and tired and worn out social justice memes "

When America sacrifices MORALITY FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY... its is already dooming itself to engage inhumane conduct, the same as was shown to be the motivation and conduct of the system of slavery and indenture.

Quote:
"Romans 16:17-18
I urge you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and put obstacles in your way that are contrary to the teaching you have learned. Keep away from them. For such people are not serving our Lord Christ, but their own appetites. By smooth talk and flattery they deceive the minds of naive people.
We know everyone who supported Trump is not a white nationalist or a white supermarket, but they are "more focused on money and power, than on the values that make a civil and civic nation that has a social dignity based in Moral Value as being premier in the society of mankind. Sadly the endorse and support an Administration that engages in child abuse and immigrant abuse without conscience concern for morality... over the lust-fullness of monetary pursuits. That is the mentality of America that has created the 'Economic Mess" that fueled the Civic Unrest which promoted bias and bigotry, that shapes itself through the filter of racial and ethnicity bias.

People don't think any more they are driven by "groomed in fears" and "lustful greed trained pursuits, and those same pursuits are the root of their own destitution and moral decay. They've for centuries tried to hide and embed this within their religious ideology and in doing so bastardize the principles of religious teaching of God Premised values.

This has been done over centuries and murder and mayhem has marked it trek through time.. for the slaughter of the American Native Indians, the Mass inhumane murders of countless slaves and the brutal of grooming a society that even took a party styled delight in public hanging of racist motivations.

That's what Moral Decay looks like and that's what it is. The recent attacker in El Paso and others who have such race backed malice, mayhem and murderous intentions, efforts and acts is demonstrative of how such vile has eroded any concept to uphold a Moral Premise and support and promote Moral Principles.

[/quote]
FBI has shown who is the bulk crime creators in America



and; the FBI also documents who is the highest group percentage who perpetuate hate crimes. (n 2017, race was reported for 6,370 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

50.7 percent were White.
21.3 percent were Black or African American.
7.5 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
0.8 percent (49 offenders) were American Indian or Alaska Native.
0.7 percent (42 offenders) were Asian.
3 offenders were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
19.1 percent were unknown. [/quote]

America has to FACE THE TRUTH...NOT... continue to folllow the "White Nationalist White Washed Versions"... of Denial.

Sadly, this same denial continues to show as well among white society a fast escalation of brutality, violence and other acts includes murder by whites, that also is taking the lives of many white people... as they continue this denial cycle... and trying to call it an "anomaly" as if to not address real truth.
Black society does not deny the black violence within black communities and certainly do not pretend it is not real.
Truth and fact is... White and Black society must address the continuing violence in principle...

Quote:
We have today a vast segment of society raised in broken homes, white and black homes, we have a system that has spent decades trying to disenfranchise segments of society, both the poor whites and the poor blacks and thrust a situation where there is ever deteriorating cycles of poor parenting.

Of the 11 million families with children under age 18, and no spouse present, the majority are single mothers (8.5 million). Single fathers comprise the remaining 2.5 million single parent families.

The better news is:
“Despite the rise of childbearing outside of marriage, the majority of children in the United States still live with two married parents,”
The majority of America’s 73.7 million children under age 18 live in families with two parents (69 percent)
America's Greaterst Problem is: "Economic Greedy By Industrialist America"... WE yes, WE allowed our Universities to Train People that "Greed is Good" and "Profit By Any Means"
WE chose this idea that everything is about "image", "status", "monetary excess" and "thinking that freedom means do anything you want, by any means one wants"... and we abandoned the teaching that "Freedom is based and afforded by and throught responsibility"... We chose to create a society, where "money", "publicity status" could evade the laws and disregard morality, and pay their way out of responsible.

We chose to groom a society that life is "about shopping" and "material excess" until it groomed into the young the agenda of "bullying for status imagery" and "status delusions'... until kids are killing themselves behind such madness.

Point: Black people were bullied for centuries based on race.. but "they did not kill themselves" why? Because they were raised in families that based their values in the Church of God's teaching that No human being is better than another in Gods Ideal of Creation"... and "No material measure can determine ones self worth"... Black families also have failures in this areas as well today, because the pursuit of economic and status has turn many from this, the same as it turned many in white society against the basic values of morality and not measuring ones self by vanity and materialism.

We've become a society that fails to teach this at a young age, and we leave our young people susceptible to succumb to the arrogant vile of bullying. Bullies are driven by Fear, fear of their own insecurities and ego mania as a tool to try and deflect that fear upon others. Black families also have failures in this areas as well today, because the pursuit of economic and status has turn many from this, the same as it turned many in white society against the basic values of morality and not measuring ones self by vanity and materialism.

History in America... Black people did not have nor create a system of "gangs", "corporate criminals", "business swindlers" and all the things that were elements of the earliest settlers from Europe where this was common in the cities of European countries where many came from. The concept of material self measure came with the people who came from Europe... Sadly today, some of black society has lost themselves in this system of such material madness that generate as well now in black society these types of criminals as well.

Although these types of criminals are not the majority of white society and these type of criminals are not the majority of black society.

Today we have publicity of material excess over over the internet in a saturation that has damaged the concept of morality, and enhanced the consumption's in some of vanity of every type, and in some the lust for money by any means as a basis of self measure.

Our challenges should not be based on race, but on ethnic and morality.... as America People... This current madness of "the millionaire life'... has damaged everything in America. We have people and a society based on the needs of something similar to a $15 hr wage structure to meet the basic standards of living... but we are daily bombarded with spin, drama and the madness of those who pursue by any means to amassing of wealth excess of a monetary self measure. That is what is and continues to damage America. Inequity among society, by the greed systems the wealthy have engaged to overtake the political structure, organizations and systems of our nation, from government, to business and industry, to the expanse of ignoring and violating every regulatory system that was long built over many decades that ult up what is America.
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Oh please.

I remember I posted once that I didn't believe waterboarding was a harsh treatment for the terrorists. The "left" here almost bite my head off! Many said I said what I said because of my 1/4 Japanese heritage. It is all in the blood.

Isn't THAT racist? haha

Today, everybody is a racist, everybody is a hero. lol I read a post on facebook, an idiot even called Omar a hero. Go figure!
Waterboarding? Omar? What do they have to do with Trump attacking a judge's Mexican heritage? Do your words or someone's post on Facebook carry the same weight as those of the president of the United States?
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Old 08-10-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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You said:
" Spare us the moral superiority of your charitable, politically correct mindset, and tired and worn out social justice memes "

When America sacrifices MORALITY FOR THE SAKE OF MONEY... its is already dooming itself to engage inhumane conduct, the same as was shown to be the motivation and conduct of the system of slavery and indenture.



We know everyone who supported Trump is not a white nationalist or a white supermarket, but they are "more focused on money and power, than on the values that make a civil and civic nation that has a social dignity based in Moral Value as being premier in the society of mankind. Sadly the endorse and support an Administration that engages in child abuse and immigrant abuse without conscience concern for morality... over the lust-fullness of monetary pursuits. That is the mentality of America that has created the 'Economic Mess" that fueled the Civic Unrest which promoted bias and bigotry, that shapes itself through the filter of racial and ethnicity bias.

People don't think any more they are driven by "groomed in fears" and "lustful greed trained pursuits, and those same pursuits are the root of their own destitution and moral decay. They've for centuries tried to hide and embed this within their religious ideology and in doing so bastardize the principles of religious teaching of God Premised values.

This has been done over centuries and murder and mayhem has marked it trek through time.. for the slaughter of the American Native Indians, the Mass inhumane murders of countless slaves and the brutal of grooming a society that even took a party styled delight in public hanging of racist motivations.

That's what Moral Decay looks like and that's what it is. The recent attacker in El Paso and others who have such race backed malice, mayhem and murderous intentions, efforts and acts is demonstrative of how such vile has eroded any concept to uphold a Moral Premise and support and promote Moral Principles.
FBI has shown who is the bulk crime creators in America



and; the FBI also documents who is the highest group percentage who perpetuate hate crimes. (n 2017, race was reported for 6,370 known hate crime offenders. Of these offenders:

50.7 percent were White.
21.3 percent were Black or African American.
7.5 percent were groups made up of individuals of various races (group of multiple races).
0.8 percent (49 offenders) were American Indian or Alaska Native.
0.7 percent (42 offenders) were Asian.
3 offenders were Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.
19.1 percent were unknown. [/quote]

America has to FACE THE TRUTH...NOT... continue to folllow the "White Nationalist White Washed Versions"... of Denial.

Sadly, this same denial continues to show as well among white society a fast escalation of brutality, violence and other acts includes murder by whites, that also is taking the lives of many white people... as they continue this denial cycle... and trying to call it an "anomaly" as if to not address real truth.
Black society does not deny the black violence within black communities and certainly do not pretend it is not real.
Truth and fact is... White and Black society must address the continuing violence in principle...



America's Greaterst Problem is: "Economic Greedy By Industrialist America"... WE yes, WE allowed our Universities to Train People that "Greed is Good" and "Profit By Any Means"
WE chose this idea that everything is about "image", "status", "monetary excess" and "thinking that freedom means do anything you want, by any means one wants"... and we abandoned the teaching that "Freedom is based and afforded by and throught responsibility"... We chose to create a society, where "money", "publicity status" could evade the laws and disregard morality, and pay their way out of responsible.

We chose to groom a society that life is "about shopping" and "material excess" until it groomed into the young the agenda of "bullying for status imagery" and "status delusions'... until kids are killing themselves behind such madness.

Point: Black people were bullied for centuries based on race.. but "they did not kill themselves" why? Because they were raised in families that based their values in the Church of God's teaching that No human being is better than another in Gods Ideal of Creation"... and "No material measure can determine ones self worth"... Black families also have failures in this areas as well today, because the pursuit of economic and status has turn many from this, the same as it turned many in white society against the basic values of morality and not measuring ones self by vanity and materialism.

We've become a society that fails to teach this at a young age, and we leave our young people susceptible to succumb to the arrogant vile of bullying. Bullies are driven by Fear, fear of their own insecurities and ego mania as a tool to try and deflect that fear upon others. Black families also have failures in this areas as well today, because the pursuit of economic and status has turn many from this, the same as it turned many in white society against the basic values of morality and not measuring ones self by vanity and materialism.

History in America... Black people did not have nor create a system of "gangs", "corporate criminals", "business swindlers" and all the things that were elements of the earliest settlers from Europe where this was common in the cities of European countries where many came from. The concept of material self measure came with the people who came from Europe... Sadly today, some of black society has lost themselves in this system of such material madness that generate as well now in black society these types of criminals as well.

Although these types of criminals are not the majority of white society and these type of criminals are not the majority of black society.

Today we have publicity of material excess over over the internet in a saturation that has damaged the concept of morality, and enhanced the consumption's in some of vanity of every type, and in some the lust for money by any means as a basis of self measure.

Our challenges should not be based on race, but on ethnic and morality.... as America People... This current madness of "the millionaire life'... has damaged everything in America. We have people and a society based on the needs of something similar to a $15 hr wage structure to meet the basic standards of living... but we are daily bombarded with spin, drama and the madness of those who pursue by any means to amassing of wealth excess of a monetary self measure. That is what is and continues to damage America. Inequity among society, by the greed systems the wealthy have engaged to overtake the political structure, organizations and systems of our nation, from government, to business and industry, to the expanse of ignoring and violating every regulatory system that was long built over many decades that ult up what is America.[/quote]

CH-5. Children Under 18 Years Living With Mother Only, by Marital Status
of Mother: 1960 to Present
(CPS)


For more information about ASEC, including the source and accuracy statement, see the technical documentation accessible at:

http:/www.census.gov/apsd/techdoc/cps/cps-main.html


Poverty Status in 2017
https://www.census.gov/data/tables/t...ov/pov-01.html


Raw Numbers

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