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Old 08-12-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Can someone please explain this to me? What was going on in California when the news of Epstein's "death" was announced and why were no other states interested in the same topic?







Before the internet, they were able to get away with things like this but too many people are waking up! This weekend was a definite jolt in "redpilling" a bunch of people. If this had happened in Russia, where an "oligarch" connected to the rich and powerful across politics, entertainment, and banking, died under suspicious circumstances in jail, the MSM (Fox, CNN, etc.), would be talking about how corrupt Russia is.

 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:34 PM
 
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He testimony would not have necessarily been credible. His death is meaningless.

He might have unaltered and credible tapes stored in a cloud or vault anywhere in the world that could be released at any point in time, including post humous.

The whereabouts of his partner in crime, Ghislaine Maxwell, who recruited and groomed teen girls and named in many previously settled suits, remains unknown. She knows as much if not more than Epstein what went down. She has more than enough money to change her identity and live a very comfortable life somewhere in the world.
Right - just like Cambridge Analytica, financed and directed by Mercer, Bannon, Russians and the Trump Campaign....just closed their doors and said "bye bye". No money lost. No dozens in jail.

That's the way it all works. If you have the bucks to offshore yourself or your company....then you can simply say "that company went broke"....

Any evidence against Maxwell is mostly just from witnesses....which wouldn't seem strong enough to start international manhunts. But she is just one of many of the people involved....

I say the real fallout from this case is largely over. All these other investigations will go on..under the direction of the same Dude who said "I declare based upon my hiring by the Boss that the Boss shouldn't be charged".
 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:37 PM
 
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Can someone please explain this to me? What was going on in California when the news of Epstein's "death" was announced and why were no other states interested in the same topic?

Before the internet, they were able to get away with things like this but too many people are waking up! This weekend was a definite jolt in "redpilling" a bunch of people. If this had happened in Russia, where an "oligarch" connected to the rich and powerful across politics, entertainment, and banking, died under suspicious circumstances in jail, the MSM (Fox, CNN, etc.), would be talking about how corrupt Russia is.
Your ideal that trending on twitter somehow means that things won't be covered up...should be considered in view of the Mueller Report and everything else we have seen happen. In the Scheme of things those deals are vastly larger than Epstein. And what happened? Some lesser characters in jail...

The Barr and DeSantis announce "investigations" that means "we'll drag this out and meanwhile so many other crimes of ours will happen that it will be forgotten about.

Most people are not on twitter. Of the people on twitter, I doubt 1% of them every take action (other than tweets) about things.

Show me when a million or two million people are going to descend on DC...like in Hong Kong...and then we can start to discuss change. Sorry, online "organizing" does change things.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:50 PM
 
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They would have had him killed long ago if he was making a fortune blackmailing them.
Not if he was hiding proof of others’ guilt that would come out—
Makes you wonder if there was stuff in the photos taken during the big search that he had knowledge of and was silenced...
 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:51 PM
 
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Just an intesting aside about Epstein’s estate
https://www.wealthmanagement.com/est...91bd91416d9e06

Note the reference to “civil forfeiture”
 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:52 PM
 
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If you have not seen a friend in 15 years, it sounds like you are not "close" friends.

Are you calling President Trump a child molester?
Trump parties with child molestors.
That s all anyone can say for sure.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 01:55 PM
 
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Isn't anyone worried about El Chapo, who is down the hall, and who has escaped from maximum security prisons before? If this prison's security is so slapdash, that could happen again (if the price was right).
El Chapo got moved. He "disappeared" for 2 days and surfaced at Supermax in CO.
This was around 7/18.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:01 PM
 
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This is more entertaining than I thought it would be. We have BOTH sets of conspiracy whacks hard at work for this one. Either the "Clinton family" had him killed, or the "Trump crime syndicate" somehow had him eliminated. Since both political machines have had plenty of contact and interaction with Epstein, it's a free for all. After all it's a lot more exciting to promote some nutty idea than to examine the reality of the situation, which is that the prison system failed us miserably in terms of bringing justice for this guy's victims.
Well let's see.

Hillary Clinton turned $1000 to $100k in a matter of days in cattle futures.
Whitewater.
Clinton got the questions ahead of time in the debates from CNN and Donna Brazille.
Bill Clinton was accused of rape. Settled out of court with Paula Jones.
Had an affair with a much younger intern and lied about it.
Paid Fusion GPS for a fake pack of lies about Trump and then funneled it through the FBI to get warrants to spy on the Trump campaign to keep him from winning. When that didn't work, they opened an investigation into him based on previous fake dossier. If you think the Clintons aren't dirty, you are either 5 years old and not paying attention. And this isn't even all of it. I am not even going to get into all the 'friends' of the Clintons who have committed 'suicide'.
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:02 PM
 
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Your ideal that trending on twitter somehow means that things won't be covered up...should be considered in view of the Mueller Report and everything else we have seen happen. In the Scheme of things those deals are vastly larger than Epstein. And what happened? Some lesser characters in jail...

The Barr and DeSantis announce "investigations" that means "we'll drag this out and meanwhile so many other crimes of ours will happen that it will be forgotten about.

Most people are not on twitter. Of the people on twitter, I doubt 1% of them every take action (other than tweets) about things.

Show me when a million or two million people are going to descend on DC...like in Hong Kong...and then we can start to discuss change. Sorry, online "organizing" does change things.
Vastly larger than Epstein? Hell no! Esptein is for sure larger than the media created Russia controversy as it literally involves a worldwide child trafficking ring (with some satanic rituals on the side), and implicates so many people across so many industries. Billionaires, CEOs, former heads of state, politicians, entertainers, etc.

What happened on Twitter was obvious... there was a clear diversion tactic that someone (Shareblue?) was trying to push after receiving those orders from higher ups. It obviously didn't work, especially once people realized how little Trump's name was mentioned in the released court documents. That and this suicide taken by itself is ridiculous. Clear cover-up going on.

Yeah no one will ascend like that on DC if the news doesn't accurately report what's going on. Instead, we get a lot of paid protestors for whatever "I hate Trump" march is happening. People who actually believed this Russia thing and completely dismissed child trafficking (aka pizzagate) because Snopes or whatever other biased media "debunked it". Yet here we are, seeing things mentioned in pizzagate back in 2015/16 coming to the light...
 
Old 08-12-2019, 02:03 PM
 
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And just for the record, while Epstein was clearly a pedophile, he was a SEX TRAFFICKER.
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