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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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Nope. According to the flight logs, those 26 flights that Clinton took were NOT to Epstein's island.

"Virginia Roberts, 32, who claims she was pimped out by Epstein at age 15, has previously claimed she saw Clinton at Epsteinís getaway in 2002, but logs do not show Clinton aboard any flights to St. Thomas, the nearest airport capable of accommodating Epstein's plane. They do show Clinton flying aboard Epsteinís plane to such destinations as Hong Kong, Japan, Singapore, China, Brunei, London, New York, the Azores, Belgium, Norway, Russia and Africa."

https://www.foxnews.com/us/flight-lo...eviously-known
Virginia Giuffre says otherwise in her testimony.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Virginia Giuffre says otherwise in her testimony.
All I'm saying is that if Clinton was there, he did not get there on one of the 26 flights that the poster I am replying to is citing as evidence that Clinton was there.

There's plenty of mysteriousness here to go around. If we're going to have a sensible discussion, it's important to not misstate what a particular piece of evidence does / doesn't show.

Are there other flight logs out there? Undoubtedly. What do they show?

If Clinton was on Epstein's island, did he arrive there on some other person's jet/boat?

If Clinton was on Epstein's island or other residence, did he have sex with underage teenagers? Did every single guest Epstein ever hosted have sex with underage teenagers proceed by Epstein, Maxwell, et. al.?

Does Giuffre believe what she says? (I'm 120% certain she does.) Is she that rare eyewitness that is never mistaken about who she saw where?

The 26 flight logs under discussion simply cannot be used to answer those questions.

And you'd better believe that any man charged with these crimes will have a team of lawyers that will ask these questions and more. If you want any of these charges to stick, as I passionately do, best to be scrupulous about how you use the evidence. Both prosecutors and defense attorneys have lost cases they should have won because they got careless with what the evidence actually shows.

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Old 08-13-2019, 05:57 PM
 
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All I'm saying is that if Clinton was there, he did not get there on one of the 26 flights that the poster I am replying to is citing as evidence that Clinton was there.
And he'd be pretty stupid to do that too.
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Old 08-13-2019, 06:31 PM
 
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I love how there is actual video of Trump partying with Epstein but somehow it is Clinton that is guilty of partying with Epstein.

You gotta love that kool-aid.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:01 PM
 
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Nope. It got started again because a) it never really stopped, and b) because Trump appointed Acosta, the guy who cut Epstein's sweet deal, and people noticed.
Lmao! Let me educate you real fast. This is from an article written in 2016:

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Hagmann claimed that the NYPD discovered other files in Weiner’s possession that pointed to a sex blackmail network involving known pervs Opens a New Window. like Clinton pal Jeffrey Epstein...

As Radar previously reported, the FBI reopened its investigation into Clinton’s private server Opens a New Window. used during her time secretary of state, after discovering new emails on a computer belonging to Weiner and estranged wife, top Clinton aide, Huma Abedin.
https://radaronline.com/videos/antho...kmail-network/

So these "people" you're talking about... are they now digging further into Epstein/his island/his ranch or have they stopped since he's dead now and there's nothing else to investigate? From what I've read, including your posts, people who didn't want to believe the truth behind pizzagate thinks it's a wrap. It's incredible to see people dismiss child trafficking, but that's the world the media has created.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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It seems that he was had 2 lawyers for 20 years. They have just got themselves, lawyers. Interesting read:


Jeffrey Epsteinís lawyers deeply involved in his business dealings for decades, documents show

Meanwhile, Epstein's longtime corporate attorneys, Darren Indyke and Jeffrey Schantz, have hired criminal defense attorneys, according to The New York Times.

A Yahoo Finance investigation reveals Indykeís and Schantzís deep involvement in Epsteinís business transactions and their personal relationships with the disgraced financier. Our findings suggest that Epstein was by far the lawyersí biggest client. In fact, we were unable to find records of their work with any clients other than Epstein or his associates. Indykeís signature in particular spans across numerous filings involving Epteinís foundations, trusts, entities, and business dealings.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jeffr...164305188.html
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:41 PM
 
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I love how there is actual video of Trump partying with Epstein but somehow it is Clinton that is guilty of partying with Epstein.

You gotta love that kool-aid.
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Stop drinking the DNC Kool-Aid, Stalwart.
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:42 PM
 
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Turns out one of the people guarding Epstein was NOT a prison guard.

Makes me wonder who is guarding El Chapo then
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:49 PM
 
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Pretty weird that this prison allows other staff to do officer duty. Wonder what he was, counselor maybe? You have to be POST (Peace Officer Standards of Training) certified to work as an officer for BOP I believe.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/13/n...-officers.html
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Old 08-13-2019, 07:54 PM
 
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High profile prisoner with previous attempt at suicide and they assign "joe rent a cop" to guard him ?

This was the most predicted death ever once he got arrested. Even the victims' lawyers predicted that he'd never see trial.
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