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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-14-2019, 06:34 AM
 
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Now the story is the guards were asleep for three hours and falsified the logs

Plus Epstein actually had a room-mate until the day before the suicide...
The more that comes out, the more this stinks.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Now the story is the guards were asleep for three hours and falsified the logs

Plus Epstein actually had a room-mate until the day before the suicide...
There is a point where Occam's Razor says that this absolutely was murder.

A man who has dirt on the most rich and powerful people on the planet gets thrown into what is reputed to be the most secure prison available. By all accounts, it's supposed to be impossible to escape, impossible to kill yourself and impossible for anyone to get to you from the outside. Then exactly the right series of circumstances somehow aligns and he is found unconscious in his cell. Even now, nobody is telling us solid details about the first time he gets "suicided." Then, only three weeks later and one day after a whole lot of incriminating information is released about some rich and powerful people, the stars once-again align perfectly. For the second time in less than a month, the impossible inexplicably becomes impossible. He gets taken off suicide watch. His cellmate is removed. The DOJ was assured that both of these things would remain in place for Epstein's personal safety, but they just mysteriously went away. Then the guards mysteriously stopped checking on Epstein at exactly the right time frame. Then he gets "suicided" a second time -- this time successfully. He would have needed to essentially contort himself into a self-strangulating position and happen to pass out leaning forwards. He needed to do this with paper sheets, and in a cell that is too short for you to hang yourself in. The bunk bed just happens to have been left in his cell even though his cellmate had been removed. Yet somehow it all just mysteriously works and Epstein manages to kill himself. The levels of BS here are just mind-blowing.

At this point, the chances that Epstein's death was not the result of outside entities demanding his death is about the same as me, a white guy with absolutely no African ancestry, actually inheriting $250 million from a Nigerian prince.
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Old 08-14-2019, 07:21 AM
 
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Should have some very detached independent identification of the body. Dental records, dna, whatever. This sham stinks to high heaven. I trust no one in this. Such obvious bs. Shifting a warden and sending guards home will probably be as far as it goes. What good is surveillance when everyone is compromised, and oops, fell asleep, looked the other way etc
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: FL
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Yeah, Clinton was on the island 27 times from flight logs but Hillary said: "What difference, at this point, does it make?"
Link?
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:32 AM
 
Location: FL
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Do you have a link to these flight logs where you saw that it was 27 times specifically to the island? I thought that was really to other places and 27 legs, not flights.
That is what I have read.
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Old 08-14-2019, 10:35 AM
 
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I called it Sat morning when they reported on the "extreme overtime guards".
The guards will be blamed and life will go on
Where's my pony ?


True cause of death: involuntary suicide
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:00 AM
 
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Also, he supposedly commits suicide late Friday night and the story breaks in the media on a Saturday in the middle of August when most people are vacationing or getting ready to get back to school.

There's just too many convenient coincidences to believe there wasn't any foul play involved.

People say you shouldn't entertain conspiracy theories, but Watergate, Iran-Contra, political assassinations and many other conspiracies are just some events that have happen in our history.

When you have corrupt humans involved with power and authority, conspiracies do happen.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:01 AM
 
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There is a point where Occam's Razor says that this absolutely was murder.

A man who has dirt on the most rich and powerful people on the planet gets thrown into what is reputed to be the most secure prison available. By all accounts, it's supposed to be impossible to escape, impossible to kill yourself and impossible for anyone to get to you from the outside. Then exactly the right series of circumstances somehow aligns and he is found unconscious in his cell. Even now, nobody is telling us solid details about the first time he gets "suicided." Then, only three weeks later and one day after a whole lot of incriminating information is released about some rich and powerful people, the stars once-again align perfectly. For the second time in less than a month, the impossible inexplicably becomes impossible. He gets taken off suicide watch. His cellmate is removed. The DOJ was assured that both of these things would remain in place for Epstein's personal safety, but they just mysteriously went away. Then the guards mysteriously stopped checking on Epstein at exactly the right time frame. Then he gets "suicided" a second time -- this time successfully. He would have needed to essentially contort himself into a self-strangulating position and happen to pass out leaning forwards. He needed to do this with paper sheets, and in a cell that is too short for you to hang yourself in. The bunk bed just happens to have been left in his cell even though his cellmate had been removed. Yet somehow it all just mysteriously works and Epstein manages to kill himself. The levels of BS here are just mind-blowing.

At this point, the chances that Epstein's death was not the result of outside entities demanding his death is about the same as me, a white guy with absolutely no African ancestry, actually inheriting $250 million from a Nigerian prince.
737 MAXs would have failed - most likely but even positively on 9-11.
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:39 AM
 
Location: Somewhere flat in Mississippi
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Exactly how many people would need to be involved in a conspiracy to murder Epstein?
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Old 08-14-2019, 11:45 AM
 
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Epstein was probably murdered. He knew too much about these politicians and high rollers who liked to mess with under age girls.
He provided the under aged girls. Of course he knew about all this. I doubt he was murdered though. He offed himself because he knew he'd never see the light of day again. He went from ultra rich to ultra incarcerated (housed with the lowest of the lowest of society) in the snap of a finger. A bad nightmare to him would be having to use a Starbucks bathroom. His new reality was being locked up in a space just as bad as a dirty Starbucks bathroom. Suicide was his only way out. Nothing more, nothing less. It is what it is.
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