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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Doesn't matter to me whether they are entire flights or legs of flights.

They simply don't show that Clinton flew on Epstein's jet to Epstein's island or any other Epstein property.

Giuffre has said that she saw Clinton on the island, but neither she nor any other of the victims has said that they had sexual contact with Clinton.

I find it fascinating that the evidence at this point regarding both Clinton and Trump is roughly equivalent - they definitely both were seen more than once enjoying Epstein's company/hospitality and both had more than casual contact with him. None of the victims has claimed to have had sex with either one. Yet some people think that this generally similar evidence damns one and exonerates the other.

Me? I don't think nearly enough shoes have yet dropped. Not willing yet to let either of them off the hook, along with the dozens of other A-listers who partied around with, and worked on projects with, Jeffrey Epstein. I'm sure that many of those folks never had sex with Epstein's underage teenagers. I wanna know WHO DID.
Giuffre was a sex worker. She was free to come and go and she did. She describes herself as most favored because she did not turn anyone down. This implies the teens were free to decline and some did. Not clear what was going on in the homes of some of these girls. No one notices their daughter / sister gets picked up by a private car? No one notices a multi week disappearance and a returnshome flush and tan?

She previously filed suit in Florida and accepted a cash payment settlement for her silence.

What 16 year old knew who Dershowitz was in the late 90’s- early 00’s? That he was Epstein’s attorney during the litigation is significant.

That she recently recalls a few more names is curious.

The step parents of the first Jane Doe, age 14, claimed she ran out of Epstein’s Palm Beach mansion in her underwear. Jennifer Araoz has a similar story that happened in NY when she was 14. She claims to have been recruited at 14. Over time she agreed to strip and says she did so because Epstein told her he could help her acting career. She claims she was brutally raped and never returned. She felt shame and never reported it.

These stories strike me as more credible than 16-17 year old girls who understood the score and returned again and again and took payment for doing so.

Obviously more will be revealed.

It is also curious how so many believe everything despite these girls trend more vague than the testimony by Kavenaugh’s accuser.

I am hoping there are tapes that can be certified as unaltered, no matter who the featured players are.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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Oh My

Imagine the complete meltdown of the leftists if this had been Trump. But they give the Clintons a free pass. Absolutely more proof that Clinton was very very close to Epstein.
Or that Epstein liked Clinton.....print or painting done by a NYC Artist. I doubt Bill posed for it.

If Epstein had Jesus on the wall in heels, what would that mean?

You folks are plumb crazy! As if Clinton and sex hasn't been a meme (and truth) for decades....oh, wow, look...some artist decided to do this!
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:02 PM
 
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He looks positively CREEPY!

I do like the pumps.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:03 PM
 
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I bet you won't see this painting of Bill Clinton in a blue dress on CNN...
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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Or that Epstein liked Clinton.....print or painting done by a NYC Artist. I doubt Bill posed for it.

If Epstein had Jesus on the wall in heels, what would that mean?

You folks are plumb crazy!
Just think. We barely missed having this hang in the oval office.





Clinton & Epstein apparently had ties to each other that have YET to come out. This bizarre portrait proves it.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:04 PM
 
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Or that Epstein liked Clinton.....print or painting done by a NYC Artist. I doubt Bill posed for it.

If Epstein had Jesus on the wall in heels, what would that mean?

You folks are plumb crazy! As if Clinton and sex hasn't been a meme (and truth) for decades....oh, wow, look...some artist decided to do this!
So you think it's normal for a man to wear a dress?
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:06 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Incorrect. Absolutely. Epstein's accusers have clearly stated that Trump was never involved. They have not said that about any of Epstein's close associates. You are falling for dope from the crooked MSM looking for a way to protect Bill Clinton and others.
Which of the victims said she had sex with Clinton?

The victims said they didn't have sex with Trump. Or Clinton.

They couldn't possibly know that either man was never involved.

Maxwell and a couple of others would be in a position to know that.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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Or that Epstein liked Clinton.....print or painting done by a NYC Artist. I doubt Bill posed for it.

If Epstein had Jesus on the wall in heels, what would that mean?

You folks are plumb crazy! As if Clinton and sex hasn't been a meme (and truth) for decades....oh, wow, look...some artist decided to do this!
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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Based upon nothing, of course.

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...except a long track record and trail of corpses.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:11 PM
 
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Wow! Almost 300 CD Posters do not think it was suicide.....
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