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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:12 PM
 
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How is this portrait proof they were close? I can very much see this being some artist's cheeky rendition based solely on the famous blue dress itself, simply imagining he wore it. And Epstein just wanting something ridiculous.

Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But I honestly don't see how this is proof either way.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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He was romantically involved with the woman who ultimately became his little girl recruiter. She's not that much different in age compared to him. I think there's a 9 year age difference. If he had personal interests in underage girls before 2002, where are they? The oldest one I'm reading about is now 33 years old. Going back to 2002 and that makes her roughly 14 at that time.
I don't know that he ever actually DID anything toward with any of his Dalton students. But clearly, he wasn't acting impeccably toward them either.

Why don't they come forward now? Why would they? Would you want to voluntarily come forward to enter this **** show?
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Link mentions the photo was snapped inside Epstein’s mansion in 2012, 7 years before Epstein was accused.

Reality is, Epstein was accused in the 2004-5 timeframe and was able to plea bargain the charges down and received the cushiest sentence.

Not likely Clinton posed for this picture, anywhere, let alone the Oval Office. It would serve no purpose for him to have done so.

People believe anything when it seems to validate and reinforce their perceptions.

Daily Mail is an online tabloid that reported Melania was a call girl in a double page spread during her modeling days. Melania sued. Publication retracted , apologized and settled with FLOTUS.

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Old 08-14-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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How is this portrait proof they were close? I can very much see this being some artist's cheeky rendition based solely on the famous blue dress itself, simply imagining he wore it. And Epstein just wanting something ridiculous.

Maybe they were, maybe they weren't. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. But I honestly don't see how this is proof either way.

Mr Obtuse isn't going to save you on this one. Admit it. Epstein and Clinton had ties, close ties. Nobody hangs a portrait like this otherwise.


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Old 08-14-2019, 04:20 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Link mentions the photo was snapped inside Epsteinís mansion in 2012, 7 years before Epstein was accused.

Reality is, Epstein was accused in the 2004-5 timeframe and was able to plea bargain the charges down and received the cushiest sentence.

Not likely Clinton posed for this picture, anywhere, let alone the Oval Office. It would serve no purpose for him to have done so.

People believe anything when it seems to validate and reinforce their perceptions.
Yeah, all it proves is that an artist had a funny idea, and Epstein liked it. It's not as if it's a secret what Clinton looks like.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:34 PM
 
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Yeah, all it proves is that an artist had a funny idea, and Epstein liked it. It's not as if it's a secret what Clinton looks like.
Would you hang this in your living-room?
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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A private pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden, observed the autopsy at the request of Epsteinís lawyers.
https://www.apnews.com/f0eef647142d40a092f5b3fe9321f480
Who performed the autopsy?
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:36 PM
 
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Mr Obtuse isn't going to save you on this one. Admit it. Epstein and Clinton had ties, close ties. Nobody hangs a portrait like this otherwise.


Who is Mr. Obtuse?
I voted for neither Clinton, nor Obama, nor Trump. I have no stakes in that sense.

And some people definitely would hang something like this even if they didn't know him at all. People have the oddest art sometimes. It's a quirky portrait riffing on a famous scandal.

We. Just. Don't. Really. Know. About. Anyone's. Guilt. Or. Innocence. For. Sure. Yet. Time and investigations will tell.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:39 PM
 
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I voted for neither Clinton, nor Obama, nor Trump......
How you vote is irrelevant to what I posted. There are tons of incriminating evidence out there, and of course apparently a very very large effort to cover it up. As you say the facts are now just starting to come out and the evidence, such has this portrait, don't paint a pretty picture at all of Bill Clinton.


There won't be any real justice however. They've offed the star witness. The rest is going to be hearsay.
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Old 08-14-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: FL
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Thanks. So what functions were going on in the picture of Trump and the woman (not a little girl) and the earlier clip that looks like in the 80's? BTW, Epstein was a guy who managed money of only those who had no less than a billion dollars. Of course Epstein was seen in public with Trump. He was probably pursuing Trump as a potential client to manage his finances since Trump's worth has, for the most part, been that.

From what I've been reading, Epstein started pimping little girls out in or around 2002. How has the Trump's relations been with Epstein from 2002 to current? How has the Clinton's relations been with Epstein from 2002 to current? Obviously Bill was more involved with Epstein during those years, he took many flights on Epstein's aircraft. The woman who was Epstein's little girl recruiter was even at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. Was any of the Trumps at that wedding?
Trump was angry because he didn't get invited.
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