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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:43 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Perhaps the first time Craigiri and I have ever agreed on something, or at least one of few, but that bolded sentence is accurate. Barr was pretty much top of the heap when it comes to people who could have kept Epstein alive. From what Iíve read the Keystone Cops could have handled security better. There were some serious level bungles going on. Iím not sure if I want to attribute it to complicity or incompetence, but either way the job of keeping Epstein alive got snookered.

Iím also not ready to rule out a high level coverup that ďinvestigatesĒ for a few years and quietly fades away. Epstein was tied to too many people for anyone to say that any prominent figure in Washington is immune to scrutiny. Thereís a reason people donít trust the government, which is that the government has proven itself untrustworthy. Historically, the US government has told a lot of lies and broken a lot of promises. Itís kind of the way we got to enjoy the Midwest and the West Coast.
I do think he was murdered but I must say it was a bold move for even the most powerful person. He must have had something really bad on somebody. Weíll probably never know for sure what happened or who ordered it.
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Old 08-14-2019, 09:51 PM
 
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Well, except that most everyone involved agrees that it was the Miami reported that spent years turning even stone and finally started publishing in 2016 that brought things back up again.

Without Julie Brown, the whole thing never would have happened. Acosta, Trump, Barr, Scott, DeSantis, etc.....were surely not going to bring it up!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_K._Brown

Ah, she's a Philly girl. Local....
The judge that had all the papers sealed died in March. The Miami Herald was part of the group asking for the papers to be unsealed and it was sitting in the appeals courts for I don't know how long.
Once the judge died a panel of judges said ok. And then it took off.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/...e-dies-1292394
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:42 AM
 
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A lot of people are wondering how Trump killed Epstein.
No. All the forums and comments I see are of Clinton being the one who played with Epstein and helped do away with him (had a part in it)... I see very few pointing the finger at Trump except the Liberals.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:46 AM
 
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One more time. Barr had nothing to do with Epstein's death. Stop the "it's Trump's fault" nonsense.
The Liberals are saying this because they can't believe their boy Clinton would do this.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:52 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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The Liberals are saying this because they can't believe their boy Clinton would do this.
I am actually impressed with The Clinton Crime Family...Ö.give them props. They operate with such arrogance and are quite brazen in their duties.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:43 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Should have some very detached independent identification of the body. Dental records, dna, whatever. This sham stinks to high heaven. I trust no one in this. Such obvious bs. Shifting a warden and sending guards home will probably be as far as it goes. What good is surveillance when everyone is compromised, and oops, fell asleep, looked the other way etc
YES, by having had more than one "error" surrounding the event, it just makes it appear more obvious, being "overkill"...(pardon the pun).
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:09 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Link mentions the photo was snapped inside Epsteinís mansion in 2012, 7 years before Epstein was accused.

Reality is, Epstein was accused in the 2004-5 timeframe and was able to plea bargain the charges down and received the cushiest sentence.

Not likely Clinton posed for this picture, anywhere, let alone the Oval Office. It would serve no purpose for him to have done so.

People believe anything when it seems to validate and reinforce their perceptions.

Daily Mail is an online tabloid that reported Melania was a call girl in a double page spread during her modeling days. Melania sued. Publication retracted , apologized and settled with FLOTUS.
This is clearly a painting, not a photo and an artist can paint something not from a photo. Certainly it was provided by someone as a joke, and Eppie had it.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:24 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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There's a whole lot more than smoke Waldo. There's smoke, coals, ashes, burning wood and a very nervous Bill Clinton.
Donald is the worried one. It's funny how quiet he has been about this... of course, he says he "only knew him years ago", but nature of their relationship will surface again.

Speaking of flames..

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Old 08-15-2019, 06:09 AM
 
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No. All the forums and comments I see are of Clinton being the one who played with Epstein and helped do away with him (had a part in it)... I see very few pointing the finger at Trump except the Liberals.
They are crazy Trump obsessed. The previous post is yet another example.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:10 AM
 
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The autopsy is pointing to strangulation, not death by hanging. (which is impossible with the paper type bed clothing)
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