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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:17 AM
 
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I don't think people should jump to conclusions, broken bones in the neck is common with people that hang themselves.
That's because a true hanging breaks the entire neck. This was not that as the neck wasn't broken.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Also, I have read that the bed in his cell was a bunk bed, meaning he had a fairly high point to attach the bed sheet. It appears to me that somebody in that jail wanted Epstein to commit suicide.
He was taller than the bed and there is no frame. The bedsheets are of paper quality. They would not have held a 200lb, 6ft man.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I love how you can’t find the Clinton portrait story on any “news” channels like CNN or NBC.
None of MSM have reported, thus far. This includes Fox News.

No shortage of reports from known clickbait sources.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:23 AM
 
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Opps. What's this? I'm pretty sure this woman would not be colluding with Barr as some here alleged.

Warden Shirley Skipper-Scott Sued Eric Holder for Racism – Then Got Promoted to NY City’s MCC Where Epstein Died

Apparently got promoted under the Obama Administration.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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None of MSM have reported, thus far. This includes Fox News.

No shortage of reports from known clickbait sources.
i.e. "I won't look at any proof provided for things I refuse to believe". Correct?
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:30 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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He was taller than the bed and there is no frame. The bedsheets are of paper quality. They would not have held a 200lb, 6ft man.
And how would the upper bunk be supported without a frame or platform of some sort? And even if Epstein was taller than the bunkbed by a foot or so it would still be easier to hang himself from 5 feet than 2 feet.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I do think he was murdered but I must say it was a bold move for even the most powerful person. He must have had something really bad on somebody. We’ll probably never know for sure what happened or who ordered it.
His death was meaningless.

No certainty he would have ever testified or if he did, would be honest.

No one knows if he had tapes, thousands of tapes and who has them or where in the world they are.
Imagine those who engaged are very, very concerned. Imagine if 100 tapes are released yearly on Epstein’s birthday and videos are certified as authentic.

Given you can’t prosecute a dead guy, it’s unlikely the state can seize Epstein’s assets. His estate is now fair game to anyone who seeks to file a civil suit. No doubt some suits will be fake and structured to collaborate other fake suits. Imagine it will be very challenging to distinguish actual vs fake victims.

And then there’s the prospect of book deals for some, the more named names the higher the advance.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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No. All the forums and comments I see are of Clinton being the one who played with Epstein and helped do away with him (had a part in it)... I see very few pointing the finger at Trump except the Liberals.
Neither Trump or Clinton had anything to gain by killing Epstein.

There was never certainty he would testify, let alone provide honest testimony.

This was a man used to living life on his own terms. Come what may, he had no chance of getting another sweet deal as he did in 2008. Best case was looking forward to a slice of frozen pumpkin pie at Thanksgiving.

No one knows if he secretly taped activities on his many properties in the late 90’s- early 00’s as has been previously alleged. No one knows where in the world such tapes are or who controls them.

If they exist, if authenticated by credible sources, it’s proof.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I am actually impressed with The Clinton Crime Family...….give them props. They operate with such arrogance and are quite brazen in their duties.
People believe anything that seems to validate and reinforce their perceptions.
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Old 08-15-2019, 08:48 AM
 
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People are pretty inventive. I suppose mind games area form of entertainment. Everyone wants to believe some other person had him killed.

The guy tried to kill himself once, with neck injuries. Weeks later he is found hanging alone in his cell when the guards slip up.

There is no reason to enhance this story with all sorts of imaginings. He killed himself.

Apparently, after a lifetime of exploiting younger and more vulnerable people he finally had a taste of the sense of shame he selfishly imposed upon others. He was a dandy back in his younger days teaching schoolgirls, and he had a big ego to go along with his big money and big mansions and airplanes, so the contrast living in that small cell facing charges for all the world to see was additionally painful.

I think he was ashamed. That's all.


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