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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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According to the article you posted, these can happen due to hanging OR strangulation.

Did you read it?
Breaking bones in your neck usually comes from a hanging done with a large drop. A hanging done in your cell, with a drop no higher than your bed, is not likely to produce broken bones.

Though this revelation is by no means the damning part of this story. It's the fact the most secure jail in America housing the most notorious prisoner managed to make so many inexcusable gaffs in a row for this happen.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:35 AM
 
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I don't think people should jump to conclusions, broken bones in the neck is common with people that hang themselves.
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There are reports of broken bones in the neck not uncommon to a hanging of a man this age.
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The reports of broken bones in the neck/signs of strangulation are consistent with someone hanging themselves.
not really.

'One such study conducted from 2010 to 2013 that looked at suicidal hangings in India found that hyoid damage was present in just 16 of 264 cases, or 6 percent.'

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If the broken bone in the neck was the hyoid bone then he was almost certainly strangled. Hanging can break the hyoid but it takes a great deal of force and is highly unlikely to do with paper sheets.
agreed.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Doesn't sound like a guy who was planning a suicide.

First, let me say that I am unconvinced as to whether Epstein suicided or was the victim of a Clinton style suicide. There isn't enough evidence either way. I am enjoying the speculation, though.

That being said, have you ever had a friend or family member commit suicide? I had a friend in high school who came to school on Friday, was in great spirits, made plans to hang out with everyone at the A&W (don't judge, it was a small town) on Saturday night. He went home and ate a bullet that afternoon before his parents got home. It is not uncommon for someone who has made the decision to end their life to be in good spirits before doing the deed.

I'm the first to say that there is something wrong about this whole case. The government and its agents screwed the pooch big time, at the very least. If he was silenced to prevent his testimony, that's a huge issue (which will probably never be resolved). If, however, he committed suicide, we need to take a serious look at the system which gave him the opportunity. We apparently had the most inept guards in the prison system watching over the most high profile prisoner of the decade.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I have to laugh at everyone expressing such anger this was allowed to happen without any anger expressed that his pedophilia was allowed to happen. I personally would like to thank the jail for allowing this to happen.

Assuming he was guilty of all the things he was accused of doing, I would have liked to learn who joined him in these activities.

Seems someone didn't want him to tell his story.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Jeffrey Epsteins autopsy determined the convicted pedophile suffered multiple broken neck bones, according to a report.

One of the breaks was to Epsteins hyoid bone, an injury that experts told the Washington Post is more common in homicide victims.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/epstei...-bones-report/
Again, the autopsy has not been released. The broken bones thing is attributed to anonymous sources. MSM is being careful in their reporting that information is unconfirmed. Click bait news- not so much.

Epsteins death is meaningless. No certainty he would ever testify or be honest if he did.

No one knows if there are tapes being stored in vaults or clouds anywhere in the world. No one knows who controls the tapes if they exist. Imagine those who engaged at Epsteins properties are and will remain very, very concerned. The hits could be dribbled out for decades.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You could've posted in the Epstein thread.
And you could have posted on a different thread, but you're here, aren't you?
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: United States
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There is no drop for the physical force necessary in a prison cellespecially for someone as tall as Epstein
And the paper sheets certainly wouldnt hold up for the physical force engendered...

This was a slow strangulation and you have to really want that to happen because it is so easy to stop before the oxygen level drops past the recovery point...

Someone watched The Wire and didnt see McNulty solved that faux suicide.
You're making a lot of assumptions.

There is no official word on what was in the cell at the time of his death. We don't even know what kind of sheets were in the cell.

I'm simply saying that the unconfirmed reports coming out right now are still consistent with someone hanging themselves.

Lets wait for some official information before making any conclusions.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Jeffrey Epsteins autopsy determined the convicted pedophile suffered multiple broken neck bones, according to a report.

One of the breaks was to Epsteins hyoid bone, an injury that experts told the Washington Post is more common in homicide victims.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/epstei...-bones-report/


It's also more common in hangings for older people vs. younger people.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Again, the autopsy has not been released. The broken bones thing is attributed to anonymous sources. MSM is being careful in their reporting that information is unconfirmed. Click bait news- not so much.

Epsteins death is meaningless. No certainty he would ever testify or be honest if he did.

No one knows if there are tapes being stored in vaults or clouds anywhere in the world. No one knows who controls the tapes if they exist. Imagine those who engaged at Epsteins properties are and will remain very, very concerned. The hits could be dribbled out for decades.

If it exists, it's an extortion gold mine!
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He wasn't killed because he's a pedophile. He was killed because he knows other powerful people who had sex with those young girls.
You mean like Clinton and/or President Trump?
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