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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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Assuming he was guilty of all the things he was accused of doing, I would have liked to learn who joined him in these activities.

Seems someone didn't want him to tell his story.
Someone perhaps with sway over the jail, as in the DOJ?
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Assuming he was guilty of all the things he was accused of doing, I would have liked to learn who joined him in these activities.

Seems someone didn't want him to tell his story.
No certainty he would have testified or if he did, would be honest. Suddenly a convicted large scale sex offender is going to tell the truth and the whole truth? I think not. No way he was going to get the sweet deal he got in Florida in 2008. His life as he knew it, was over.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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You mean like Clinton and/or President Trump?
I don't know who did it. I know someone powerful and well connected in our government did it. Or I strongly suspect they did because no other explanation makes sense.

But I want an independent investigation - from outside our government - to do it.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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From the article: One such study conducted from 2010 to 2013 that looked at suicidal hangings in India found that hyoid damage was present in just 16 of 264 cases, or 6 percent.
In INDIA!!?!??!!!! OMG!!

The Today show had their "medical expert" weigh in, after starting with how suspicious this broken bone was.

He said it happened in about 1/3 of strangulations and 1/4 of suicides.

so an 8% greater likelihood.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If it exists, it's an extortion gold mine!
Tapes, if authenticated, far more powerful than allegations made by alleged victims filing civil suits against Epsteinís estate.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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Are there no cameras in this jail? What about the first time he tried to kill himself? Nothing?
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:45 AM
 
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I understand that - but in the vain of possibly obtaining more info to get more of the preps, he would have been important in that regard.
Too many were and are protecting any "evidence" that could implicate any other perpetrators in relation to Epstein's crimes. Why did it take so long to search his island estate? How much evidence was carried off and destroyed before agents got there? The way this investigation has been run from the start shows a clear lack of concern for justice and a willingness to cover up and protect the powerful elite.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:47 AM
 
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According to the article you posted, these can happen due to hanging OR strangulation.

Did you read it?
A true hanging results in a broken neck. His neck was not broken.
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:51 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Someone perhaps with sway over the jail, as in the DOJ?

Ring!! Ring!!

Jailer: Hello..

Caller: Yeah, it's ****** *******. Do me a favor and kill Epstein.

Jailer: You mean.....

Caller: What, am I ****ing stuttering? Dead! I want him dead!

Jailer: Well, OK. I guess...since it's you, Mr./Ms. *******.

Caller: Make sure you break some bones in his neck too.

Jailer: But won't that look incredibly suspicious?

Caller: Yeah, yeah, whatever...chop!chop! (hangs up abruptly)
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:52 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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Anyone who believes that the government is competent at.... anything has never read a history book.
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