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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:47 AM
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Y'all are taking one finding from the autopsy and then taking it to an absurd level without any real evidence. This is what conspiracy theorists do. Actual experts who study and perform autopsies understand this is but one clue of many
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The office of New York City’s chief medical examiner, Barbara Sampson, completed an autopsy of Epstein’s body Sunday. But Sampson listed the cause of his death as pending.

Asked about the neck injuries, Sampson said in a statement that no single factor in an autopsy can alone provide a conclusive answer about what happened.

“In all forensic investigations, all information must be synthesized to determine the cause and manner of death. Everything must be consistent; no single finding can be evaluated in a vacuum.”
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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Isn't he supposed to have hanged himself? When you are hanged, you usually die of a broken neck.
That part usually involves heights though.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:59 AM
 
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On average 27% of hangings result in the hyoid bone being fractured. Again, probably depends on the weight of the individual hanging. Epstein was a tall heavy guy.

I'll bet you if they hung 10 guys, all over 200 pounds, they'd all have fractured hyoids.

This isn't rocket science. This is common sense. I guess that eludes many of the posters on this form.
So in other words it either breaks or it doesn't.
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:01 PM
 
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No matter what happened, the seeds for theories are forever planted. Died in cell with guards who fell asleep and falsified documents!
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:03 PM
 
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You think the conspiracy theorists believe Trump did it?!?!?!?!?! That's adorable. There is a Presidential link to who they figure did it, though, so you're on the right track.
Nah..if you go to ATS you'll see that both sides have actually come together on this because if Epstein was suicided then it's bigger than either Trump or Clinton given Epstein's location in "one of the most secure jails in the US".
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:07 PM
 
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Good read...


Julie Brown, a Miami Herald investigative reporter who has covered Epstein’s case intensively, said on MSNBC that “there are probably quite a few important people, powerful people, who are sweating it out right now.”










https://www.vox.com/2019/7/9/2068634...p-bill-clinton
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:26 PM
 
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Y'all are taking one finding from the autopsy and then taking it to an absurd level without any real evidence. This is what conspiracy theorists do. Actual experts who study and perform autopsies understand this is but one clue of many
i didn't hear anyone say this is the only single piece of information they'd consider.

couple multiple bones broken in his neck vs. what was supposedly a slow asphyxiation very unlikely to break any bones, much less multiple bones - - add on the fact that he was heard shrieking earlier..

who screams at their own suicide?
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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i didn't hear anyone say this is the only single piece of information they'd consider.

couple multiple bones broken in his neck vs. what was supposedly a slow asphyxiation very unlikely to break any bones, much less multiple bones - - add on the fact that he was heard shrieking earlier..

who screams at their own suicide?
Wonder if we will hear anything more about this.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...tional-center/
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:40 PM
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i didn't hear anyone say this is the only single piece of information they'd consider.
True. A lot of people were screaming murder (and naming those involved) before any evidence whatsoever to the contrary was released.
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couple multiple bones broken in his neck vs. what was supposedly a slow asphyxiation very unlikely to break any bones, much less multiple bones - - add on the fact that he was heard shrieking earlier..
I have not heard about this. Was it in the article in the op? The NY Post is loading slowly for me
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Old 08-15-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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True. A lot of people were screaming murder (and naming those involved) before any evidence whatsoever to the contrary was released.
yeah, that was silly.

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I have not heard about this. Was it in the article in the op? The NY Post is loading slowly for me
what part specifically didn't you hear about?
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