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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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The broken bones in the neck sound suspicious, but if you read more about this, you find out that with older people, bones might break in a suicide hanging.

I do not know whether Epstein killed himself, or was assisted. But I cannot imagine how anyone could get into the wing, and out again without being detected by a human, or camera. There were cameras in the hall or corridor, as I understand it.

I hope more info is released.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:51 PM
 
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You mean like Clinton and/or President Trump?

Clinton.....
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:52 PM
 
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Did you? The OP stated that the fracture is more common in homicide, which is exactly what the article states. Maybe you need to go back and read it yourself.
But is also found in older suicide victims. If that is true, the broken bones really do not prove anything.

If there truly is a conspiracy, do you think the broken neck bones information would have been released?

I’d say now, we simply do not know for sure.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Out West
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According to the article you posted, these can happen due to hanging OR strangulation.

Did you read it?
Yes, the OP stated that. My question is, with the quoted 6% possibility of it happening in hangings, where, exactly, did Epstein hang himself from? They don't have anything to hang themselves from in the cells. Not even the top bunk would be suitable as it's not that tall. He could have wrapped something around his neck and rolled until it tightened up, but would that break the particular bone in question, or is that 6% from those who actually hang from something, where the weight of the body causes a break?

Why the hell do these reporters not ask these types of questions so that they can provide these details to their readers who may not know. I'm so tired of useless journalists.
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Old 08-15-2019, 03:58 PM
 
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But is also found in older suicide victims. If that is true, the broken bones really do not prove anything.

If there truly is a conspiracy, do you think the broken neck bones information would have been released?

Id say now, we simply do not know for sure.
No disagreement there. I was simply pointing out the irony of someone lambasting the OP for misconstruing the article when they got it exactly right.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:01 PM
 
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But..isn't it hard to hang yourself on paper bedsheets?
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:06 PM
 
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I could see broken bones if you're hanging from the rafters.
But in a jail cell ? Bed was 4ft high. Best he could hope for is twisting and turning that paper sheet so he asphyxiated himself.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:07 PM
 
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But..isn't it hard to hang yourself on paper bedsheets?
This myth about paper bed sheets needs to stop. They have actual sheets in their cells. They have actual blankets in their cells. They have actual mattress pads in their cells. Are they as nice and comfy as we are used to? Absolutely not. They are pathetic, but they are not paper.
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:09 PM
 
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Yes, the OP stated that. My question is, with the quoted 6% possibility of it happening in hangings, where, exactly, did Epstein hang himself from?
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...that's just it.....you break bones from a jolt....
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:13 PM
 
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This myth about paper bed sheets needs to stop. They have actual sheets in their cells. They have actual blankets in their cells. They have actual mattress pads in their cells. Are they as nice and comfy as we are used to? Absolutely not. They are pathetic, but they are not paper.
On suicide watch you're given paper sheets. He was taken off suicide watch apparently, hence he would have access to sheets.
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