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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: FL
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If the “broken bone in the neck” was the hyoid bone then he was almost certainly strangled. Hanging can break the hyoid but it takes a great deal of force and is highly unlikely to do with paper sheets.
He wasn't on a suicide watch so he didn't have paper sheets.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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They aren't hanging from anything that would allow the body to dangle. There is nothing in their cells that they can suspend themselves from where the feet wouldn't be touching the floor. As I said, they can "alligator roll" themselves to asphyxiation, but they aren't hanging themselves.
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Right - and he's a short dude (someone mentioned he was tall).....

I think it's closer to that Prison scene (fiction) where a guy was made to look like he hung himself from a door knob...that is, you can choke yourself but it would seem quite hard to break your own neck in a perfect "forensic hanging" mode.

I'm guessing the docs involved are getting some heavy pressure from.....well, let's be frank, the Federal Government, right about now. It's not like they are getting a call from Barr, more likely some unknown is saying - as in the Acosta thing "international intelligence and security is involved - please be a Patriot and let it go".

The (the killers, assuming it is so) had no choice..there was not better plan because the whole world was watching. So the idea was just to kill him and then deal with the repercussions. There is really not a human alive who can't be threatened or cajoled in one way or another in the big leagues.

Even if one person decided not to overlook or lie, who is going to believe him or her? That would be just another conspiracy in the eye of the public.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard.../#57412256185b

Curiouser and curiouser. Another way Epstein bent rules to benefit himself. I hope he did not molest the young woman. I don’t imagine she enjoyed the assignment.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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Here ya go:

Clinton called Trump and said "Take care of it"

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Old 08-15-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Fascinating there are NO pictures of Epstein's actual jail cell.
I do find that very curious. I was even trying to see if there were photos of the cells when El Chapo was being held there, but nothing. But then again, there is only Google now, and it seems that Google is in cahoots with the very people that would have wanted Epstein dead.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Epstein was not short....he's 6 ft tall
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:24 PM
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Right - and he's a short dude (someone mentioned he was tall).....
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I found where he was 6 feet tall. He might never have been a starter in the NBA, but thats not exactly short either
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:25 PM
 
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I do find that very curious. I was even trying to see if there were photos of the cells when El Chapo was being held there, but nothing. But then again, there is only Google now, and it seems that Google is in cahoots with the very people that would have wanted Epstein dead.
Something is very stinky.....also... 303 members here think this was Not a suicide..
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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This myth about paper bed sheets needs to stop. They have actual sheets in their cells. They have actual blankets in their cells. They have actual mattress pads in their cells. Are they as nice and comfy as we are used to? Absolutely not. They are pathetic, but they are not paper.
Sorry...I read here about the paper sheets....
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Florida
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No matter what happened, the seeds for theories are forever planted. Died in cell with guards who fell asleep and falsified documents!
Not only that, he survives a "suicide" just a few weeks earlier, and the powers that be decided to take him off of suicide watch. That in itself is curious.

And, I agree with others, Barr is just as responsible. He should have had an independent council or security team hand picked to watch the guy. Amazing, same prison system kept El Chapo alive, but not this guy.
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