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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 04:59 PM
 
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I’m not disputing that the circumstances are more suspicious than lipstick on a shirt collar after hanging out with “the guys”. .

Well, you never know these days.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:01 PM
 
Location: FL
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The autopsy is pointing to strangulation, not death by hanging. (which is impossible with the paper type bed clothing)
As he wasn't on suicide watch he didn't have paper.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Out West
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This video has a great interview with a former prison guard and Sheriff's Deputy with 15 years of Law Enforcement experience discussing the process and procedures for putting a prisoner on suicide watch. No one seems to have done anything right in the Epstein case, deliberately or accidentally.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9W3cWai9ZM
I clicked on that but haven't watched it yet. I noticed on the sidebar, this video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LZ7ETGCLuM

They are reporting on what the AP reported, stating that prison guards falsified their log books of how often they actually checked on any of the inmates. AP is reporting it, Fox says they have to confirm. That was yesterday. Anyone heard anything further on that? (I don't have tv and rarely watch videos on news sites.)

Edit: Ok, I'm watching it now, and she brings up some very good points. If he was dead, clearly dead, why did they continue to try to give him CPR? Also, if he was dead, clearly dead, as they are saying he was, why did they remove him from the cell before any investigation took place?

Putting everything together, not taking each one at face value as true, but combining all of it together, there is something very wrong with the story we are being told about this.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:04 PM
 
Location: FL
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So he broke his neck and strangled himself and then to seal the deal he hung himself. I'm just glad they didn't allow the prisoners to have firearms or he would have committed suicide by putting two rounds in the back of his head.
Jeffrey Epstein autopsy report shows broken neck
An autopsy of the financier Jeffrey Epstein, who died in an apparent suicide while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges, found his neck had been broken in several places, according to two law enforcement sources.

Such injuries can occur to people who hang themselves or who are strangled.

Epstein was found dead in his jail cell in New York City on Saturday. The circumstances of the multi-millionaire's death are under investigation, and it was unclear when a report of the autopsy would be made public.

One of the two law enforcement sources familiar with the Epstein case said there was no evidence or suggestion of foul play but cautioned the investigation was at an early stage.

https://news.yahoo.com/1-jeffrey-eps...062528119.html
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: FL
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If the “broken bone in the neck” was the hyoid bone then he was almost certainly strangled. Hanging can break the hyoid but it takes a great deal of force and is highly unlikely to do with paper sheets.
He wasn't on a suicide watch so he didn't have paper sheets.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:49 PM
 
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They aren't hanging from anything that would allow the body to dangle. There is nothing in their cells that they can suspend themselves from where the feet wouldn't be touching the floor. As I said, they can "alligator roll" themselves to asphyxiation, but they aren't hanging themselves.
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Right - and he's a short dude (someone mentioned he was tall).....

I think it's closer to that Prison scene (fiction) where a guy was made to look like he hung himself from a door knob...that is, you can choke yourself but it would seem quite hard to break your own neck in a perfect "forensic hanging" mode.

I'm guessing the docs involved are getting some heavy pressure from.....well, let's be frank, the Federal Government, right about now. It's not like they are getting a call from Barr, more likely some unknown is saying - as in the Acosta thing "international intelligence and security is involved - please be a Patriot and let it go".

The (the killers, assuming it is so) had no choice..there was not better plan because the whole world was watching. So the idea was just to kill him and then deal with the repercussions. There is really not a human alive who can't be threatened or cajoled in one way or another in the big leagues.

Even if one person decided not to overlook or lie, who is going to believe him or her? That would be just another conspiracy in the eye of the public.
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Old 08-15-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/richard.../#57412256185b

Curiouser and curiouser. Another way Epstein bent rules to benefit himself. I hope he did not molest the young woman. I don’t imagine she enjoyed the assignment.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:07 PM
 
Location: FL
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Here ya go:

Clinton called Trump and said "Take care of it"

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Old 08-15-2019, 06:18 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Fascinating there are NO pictures of Epstein's actual jail cell.
I do find that very curious. I was even trying to see if there were photos of the cells when El Chapo was being held there, but nothing. But then again, there is only Google now, and it seems that Google is in cahoots with the very people that would have wanted Epstein dead.
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Old 08-15-2019, 06:22 PM
 
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Epstein was not short....he's 6 ft tall
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