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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:10 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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Quiet?

He had no problem retweeting a comedian’s tweet implying Epstein had been murdered by the Clintons.

This is one of the most irresponsible communications from this POTUS to date and I say this as someone not particularly fond of the Clintons.
Oh, I know about that...my point being, that it's ALL he has said, considering Epstein was a guy he once liked hanging out with. No shock, reaction or comment, other than immediately making sure to blame the Clintons, to divert away from himself, as always.

I feel he may have known about a plan for Epstein's demise or was directly involved, in order to prevent the divulging of his prior involvement and activities with, immediately implicating those he hates, hoping everyone would focus upon them. It's worked for his fans, at least.
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Old 08-15-2019, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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If someone got into that wing, the cameras would have recorded it. There are no cameras in cells, but there are in the halls or corridors.

I think at this point, the most likely cause of death is suicide. It is possible, I suppose, that the powers that be arranged for him to be taken off suicide watch, as an encouragement to kill himself. But then, you have guards on double OT, who fell asleep. Did someone arrange that too?

Epstein took the easy way out. He knew he was facing decades in prison. He was being kept in a miserable hellhole. Death was his his final escape.

This is my opinion, unless or until more information comes to light.

If information is released showing evidence of a struggle, then, I'd be more inclined to think murder.
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Old 08-16-2019, 02:13 AM
 
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According to reports, the 6 ft. tall Epstein supposedly strangled himself by kneeling on the floor, leaning forward into a noose made of a sheet.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/12/jeffre...dsheet-source/

Now just how could this result in "multiple broken bones" including the hyoid bone?
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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According to reports, the 6 ft. tall Epstein supposedly strangled himself by kneeling on the floor, leaning forward into a noose made of a sheet.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/12/jeffre...dsheet-source/

Now just how could this result in "multiple broken bones" including the hyoid bone?
And without the sheet, which supposedly is made from paper, not tearing. So many questions. So few answers.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:39 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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And without the sheet, which supposedly is made from paper, not tearing. So many questions. So few answers.


No paper sheets - his attorney got him off of suicide watch. Did you miss that reporting?
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Interesting aside here...none of the MSM are digging into those 2000 pages that got released.
Lots of big names showed up..all allegations of course.
Al Gore is even named in those papers...no sexual ties to the girls though..just to Epstein.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:56 AM
 
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Interesting aside here...none of the MSM are digging into those 2000 pages that got released.
Lots of big names showed up..all allegations of course.
Al Gore is even named in those papers...no sexual ties to the girls though..just to Epstein.
they don't seem very interested, do they?
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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No paper sheets - his attorney got him off of suicide watch. Did you miss that reporting?
I am aware of that. I have also heard that the sheets in his cell were not strong enough to use for suicide by hanging. But apparently that's not the case. Was Epstein supposed to have been issued suicide-proof sheets but was given regular linen sheets instead? Like I said: so many questions. So few answers. But AG Barr is "appalled" and I'm sure he'll get to the bottom of this.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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No paper sheets - his attorney got him off of suicide watch. Did you miss that reporting?
Supposedly only the Chief Psychologist and Warden can take inmates off suicide watch.

This was from a former Warden who worked in 3 Federal prisons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...icide-n1041121
But Epsteinís status was changed sometime in the last two weeks for reasons that remain unknown, officials told NBC News. Sources familiar with the case say Epstein underwent a psychiatric evaluation and the decision was made to clear him from suicide watch on or around July 29 and returned to a cell in the Special Housing Unit (SHU.) The decision would normally have to have been authorized by the jailís suicide prevention program coordinator, who is ordinarily the institutionís chief psychologist, and approved by the warden.
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Old 08-16-2019, 08:14 AM
 
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Why would the coroner’s office release the body so quickly
As far as I know there is still the possibility this could be deemed a questionable death—
Not definitively suicide
So why release the body if there might be other people who want to have an autopsy by outside forensic expert???

That release so quickly in itself is reason to speculate there are nefarious aspects to this case
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