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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:36 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This guy really wanted to do himself in by first breaking his neck and then hanging himself for good measure.

experts told the Post that the fracture is more common in victims of homicide by strangulation.

https://variety.com/2019/biz/news/je...203303290/amp/
Experts told media that Ebola in the US was airborne.

Experts disagree on climate change and causes.

Experts donít agree on what caused record violent crime to substantially decline all over the US regardless of strategy employed by local LE or lack thereof.

For every expert that says this, thereís an expert who says that.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:36 AM
 
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There has been no official investigative conclusion about the 7/23 incident. Was it an attempted suicide or something else? Regardless of whatever is released, many will not believe it.

Only thing certain, neither Barr nor his appointed acting guy in charge of federal prisons did everything within their power to protect Epstein from himself or others.

Can they spin this such to blame the warden who acted on his own?
It is in no way Barr's or anyone else's responsibility but the that specific warden of that facility. That's like blaming the HOA for your house burning down when you left the house with the stove on.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Supposedly only the Chief Psychologist and Warden can take inmates off suicide watch.

This was from a former Warden who worked in 3 Federal prisons.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...icide-n1041121
But Epsteinís status was changed sometime in the last two weeks for reasons that remain unknown, officials told NBC News. Sources familiar with the case say Epstein underwent a psychiatric evaluation and the decision was made to clear him from suicide watch on or around July 29 and returned to a cell in the Special Housing Unit (SHU.) The decision would normally have to have been authorized by the jailís suicide prevention program coordinator, who is ordinarily the institutionís chief psychologist, and approved by the warden.


I believe it was the Warden that Epstein's attorney was petitioning to get the watch removed, no? I didn't mean that Epstein's lawyer made the decision to/had the authority to remove him from suicide watch. He simply advocated for it, likely at his client's request.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I saw that Epstein's body was released to an "unidentified associate". I would bet that it's already been cremated.
Where did you see this?
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:48 AM
 
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Bill Clinton is suggesting that he flew on the Pedophile Express only four times. Log books indicate he was on it at least 27 times. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or the log books?

Bill Clinton sternly denied having "sex" with "that woman" (Monica). The blue dress with what could have turned out to be Chelsea Clinton's little sister shows up. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or Monica with the stain on the blue dress?

Hillary Clinton sternly advised that the secret server she had set up in her home was for, among other personal "reasons" used to communicate often with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton on the other hand sternly advised that he had only received, 1, maybe 2 communications from Hillary via the secret server.
Who's lying, Hillary or Bill?
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:49 AM
 
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Where did you see this?
NBC reported it 2 days ago.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:49 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Bill Clinton is suggesting that he flew on the Pedophile Express only four times. Log books indicate he was on it at least 27 times. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or the log books?

Bill Clinton sternly denied having "sex" with "that woman" (Monica). The blue dress with what could have turned out to be Chelsea Clinton's little sister shows up. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or Monica with the stain on the blue dress?

Hillary Clinton sternly advised that the secret server she had set up in her home was for, among other personal "reasons" used to communicate often with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton on the other hand sternly advised that he had only received, 1, maybe 2 communications from Hillary via the secret server.
Who's lying, Hillary or Bill?
If the Clintons are offing those in their way, how did Monica ever survive?
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:52 AM
 
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If the Clintons are offing those in their way, how did Monica ever survive?
I don't know. Ask Bill. I'm not saying Bill had anything at all to do with Epstein hanging himself. But that doesn't mean Bill didn't throw the bone over at Pedophile Island more then a few dozen times. Epstein sure had one hell of a bone thrower's party going on at that island. Too bad the women were little girls. What's wrong with 20 and 30 year olds? I don't get it. If I had the kind of dough Epstein had, I'd a been Hugh Hefner all over again, but with 20 and 30 year olds.

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Old 08-16-2019, 09:55 AM
 
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Bill Clinton is suggesting that he flew on the Pedophile Express only four times. Log books indicate he was on it at least 27 times. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or the log books?

Bill Clinton sternly denied having "sex" with "that woman" (Monica). The blue dress with what could have turned out to be Chelsea Clinton's little sister shows up. Who's lying, Bill Clinton or Monica with the stain on the blue dress?

Hillary Clinton sternly advised that the secret server she had set up in her home was for, among other personal "reasons" used to communicate often with Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton on the other hand sternly advised that he had only received, 1, maybe 2 communications from Hillary via the secret server.
Who's lying, Hillary or Bill?
But Clinton didn't lie. You have to look at his statement. He said he took 4 trips between 2002 and 2003. Note that he quantified it with dates.
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:57 AM
 
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If the Clintons are offing those in their way, how did Monica ever survive?
First of all it was just Monica and Bill...no others involved.
Second, Monica was of legal age.

You are comparing a sex scandal with one man to a global pedo ring involving many people of power.
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