U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
Voters: 429. You may not vote on this poll

Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 08-16-2019, 02:47 PM
 
3,001 posts, read 975,333 times
Reputation: 1113

Advertisements

Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Has Barr finished Epstein's suicide note yet? Anyone know?
And it will be delivered to CNN by the tooth fairy transiting by way of unicorn. Keep watching for it.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 08-16-2019, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
8,248 posts, read 5,901,994 times
Reputation: 6802
Did Crooked Trump know that Bill Barr's dad hired Epstein for his first job?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 03:49 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
4,833 posts, read 2,636,772 times
Reputation: 9499
Quote:
Originally Posted by MJJersey View Post
Hyoid bone was crushed, making suicide far less likely than homicide.
"At autopsy, fractures of the hyoid bone or thyroid cartilage, or both, are found in more than 50% of suicidal hangings," according to a large imaging study of suicide victims, most of whom are much younger than Epstein, therefore, their hyoid bones are less likely to fracture than someone older

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27687828

Epstein was 66 years old, and the elderly are more likely to suffer hyoid bone fractures, etc. in suicidal hanging.

"Had Jeffrey Epstein been only twice as old as his teenage victims, his hyoid bone would have remained so flexible that a fracture would have been a much stronger indication he had been strangled.

But at 66, the U-shaped bone between his chin and his Adamís apple likely would have become so brittle with age that it also could have been broken by hanging".

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-on...id-bone-proves
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
47,188 posts, read 34,627,778 times
Reputation: 15657
Quote:
Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Heck one of the victims said her mother drove her to Epstein's mansion in PB for work.
The girl still lived at home and attended school.
And a double life.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:20 PM
 
39,136 posts, read 15,396,239 times
Reputation: 25538
Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
47,188 posts, read 34,627,778 times
Reputation: 15657
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Looks like the fix is on this as well.

Obviously the media that claimed his bed sheets were paper and those who parroted it on this forum were mistaken.

He reportedly used a cloth bedsheet tied to the upper bunk and knelt down with such force, bones in his neck were broken, consistent with his age.

If his body was released, as has been reported and attributed to an unnamed source, it probably will be cremated and eliminate a second autopsy, should a court, at some future date, believe itís warranted.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
47,188 posts, read 34,627,778 times
Reputation: 15657
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Upper bunk and knelt.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
 
39,136 posts, read 15,396,239 times
Reputation: 25538
How does one "kneel down with such force" that bones are broken?

That's ridiculous.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 04:33 PM
 
1,664 posts, read 353,677 times
Reputation: 1936
Quote:
Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Baden was there. This is the guy the govt brought in to re-examine the JFK and MLK autopsies because the rumors were hitting hot and heavy.

No one will question this ruling because Baden was there.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 08-16-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: FL
16,118 posts, read 8,984,532 times
Reputation: 3928
Quote:
Originally Posted by latimeria View Post
I just looked at the log book photo again. They look like trips where each leg is logged, not really separate trips.

You can see it in the arriving destination and departing destination columns. You can see departing port A, Arriving port B. Next column is departing port B, arriving port C. Depends on if the abbreviations show he even stopped there, as far as these logs go.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

© 2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top