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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:20 PM
 
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Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Looks like the fix is on this as well.

Obviously the media that claimed his bed sheets were paper and those who parroted it on this forum were mistaken.

He reportedly used a cloth bedsheet tied to the upper bunk and knelt down with such force, bones in his neck were broken, consistent with his age.

If his body was released, as has been reported and attributed to an unnamed source, it probably will be cremated and eliminate a second autopsy, should a court, at some future date, believe itís warranted.
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Upper bunk and knelt.
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:30 PM
 
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How does one "kneel down with such force" that bones are broken?

That's ridiculous.
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Old 08-16-2019, 04:33 PM
 
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Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Baden was there. This is the guy the govt brought in to re-examine the JFK and MLK autopsies because the rumors were hitting hot and heavy.

No one will question this ruling because Baden was there.
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Old 08-16-2019, 05:56 PM
 
Location: FL
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I just looked at the log book photo again. They look like trips where each leg is logged, not really separate trips.

You can see it in the arriving destination and departing destination columns. You can see departing port A, Arriving port B. Next column is departing port B, arriving port C. Depends on if the abbreviations show he even stopped there, as far as these logs go.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:16 PM
 
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Or perhaps the New York City Coroner's office is just as susceptible to corruption as so much of the rest of government across our country is.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Out West
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Once again, it's been said that they do not supply the type of sheets that have any capability to do that.
Yes, they do. They do NOT have fricken paper sheets in their cells. They have actual sheets. No, they are not a high thread count, but they are still sheets.

As I said earlier, those bunk beds are not that tall. Even someone under 6' is not going to be able to hang themselves from that top bunk with their feet dangling in the air. I'm 5'5". I could not even hang myself with my feet dangling from the top bunk.

It's like people think that no prison has ever thought of these things in the past and didn't build their prisons, the cells, and what very little "furniture" (for lack of a better word) is available in the cell to prevent the inmates from using said "furniture" to do harm to themselves.
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Old 08-16-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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Or perhaps the New York City Coroner's office is just as susceptible to corruption as so much of the rest of government across our country is.
They were probably told by the Feds "he's an intelligence asset - let it be - for the good of the US"
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Old 08-16-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from..
Sigh...

One needn't hang from a long distance in order to die from "hanging".

Robin Williams committed suicide by hanging himself with a belt from a doorknob. According to the coroner's report, which is online, Williams was found in a seated position on the floor.

Kate Spade hanged herself with a scarf on a doorknob in her apartment.

Anthony Bourdain hanged himself with his bathrobe belt in the hotel bathroom where he was staying.

Last edited by SFBayBoomer; 08-16-2019 at 09:40 PM.. Reason: Added information regarding Robin Williams' death.
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