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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:28 PM
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While I do think Epstein's suicide is incredibly "convenient", the New York Times did have a really interesting article today on his last days in prison. He hated being in his jail cell so much (the cells have rodents and cockroaches) that he would hire his lawyers to come in for twelve hours a day so he could spend that time in a meeting room with vending machines outside for snacks.

And Trump's goal of shrinking government has meant that prisons across the country are incredibly short-staffed. There were only 18 guards that night for 750 prisoners and ten of them were working overtime/double shifts. The combination of very few guards, most of which were beyond exhausted, left a spoiled rich man alone long enough to where it's possible he did indeed do it to himself.

When he was put on suicide watch, they put him in a small room, naked with nothing on but a thick smock, the lights are dim at best (no darkness) and meeting with therapists. So as much as he hated his cell, he didn't like suicide watch either. Anyway, very interesting article that would make a believable ending in the likely miniseries that will result from all this.

Inmate 76318-054: The Last Days of Jeffrey Epstein
The notorious jail in Manhattan was a sharp departure from his formerly gilded life. Here’s what happened inside.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/17/n...gtype=Homepage
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:38 PM
 
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Exclamation Cement Truck with $100,000 in cement....

Jeffrey Epstein Reportedly Express-Shipped $100,000 Cement Truck To His Private Island Weeks Before Damning Exposé


A new report states that convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein express-shipped a $100,000 cement-mixing truck to his private island in the Caribbean. The revelation is newsworthy because Epstein shipped the cement mixer only weeks before the exposé that ultimately led to his arrest was published.

On November 28, 2018, the Miami Herald’s a damning series of articles titled “Perversion of Justice” that exposed the Epstein’s abuse of underage girls, identified nearly 80 victims and questioned the motives of why the wealthy man with ties to financial, political and cultural elites was given such lenient sentences in his prior convictions.

The Daily Mail report states that Epstein took responsibility for any damage to the cement truck in transit by paying upfront so that it would arrive even sooner. Epstein sent the machine with an Express Bill Of Lading, an unusual and expensive way of shipping an item so that it arrives quickly according to the Daily Mail.

William George, an analyst with shipping data firm Import Genius, told Daily Mail: “While the purchase of the cement mixer on its own is not suspicious, particularly given the reported and approved repair of cisterns on Little St. James, both the timing of the shipment and the fact that it’s the item in our records shipped with an express bill of lading do raise concerns.”

https://brobible.com/culture/article...-cement-truck/
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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To all you folks thinking the Lolita Express went to the island....there is no landing strip for a plane on that island.
^ appears to be true. One or more helicopters were used to shuttle guests from St Thomas and St Croix.

Ghislaine Maxwell was often in the pilot’s seat.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Who knew?
That Suicide Watch, involved popcorn & hoagies.
Crept he had not been on Suicide Watch since the end on July.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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^ appears to be true. One or more helicopters were used to shuttle guests from St Thomas and St Croix.

Ghislaine Maxwell was often in the pilot’s seat.



Da Plane... Da Plane.
They had more than one float plane.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:44 PM
 
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Hard to believe he hung himself. There was nothing tall enough to hang a 6 ft. man from.

What I read is that he formed a makeshift noose from the sheets, tied it to the bed, and leaned into it, strangling himself.

Hard to imagine breaking any bones that way.
Agree.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:56 PM
 
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^ appears to be true. One or more helicopters were used to shuttle guests from St Thomas and St Croix.

Ghislaine Maxwell was often in the pilot’s seat.
No "appears" needed. There is no landing strip period.
There's plenty of drone footage out there you can look at.

Maxwell was able to fly both a helicopter and a sub..both of which Epstein owned.
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Old 08-17-2019, 04:59 PM
 
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Da Plane... Da Plane.
They had more than one float plane.
Multiple boats, a sub and a black helicopter.
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Old 08-17-2019, 05:00 PM
 
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Jeffrey Epstein Reportedly Express-Shipped $100,000 Cement Truck To His Private Island Weeks Before Damning Exposé


A new report states that convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein express-shipped a $100,000 cement-mixing truck to his private island in the Caribbean. The revelation is newsworthy because Epstein shipped the cement mixer only weeks before the exposé that ultimately led to his arrest was published.

On November 28, 2018, the Miami Herald’s a damning series of articles titled “Perversion of Justice” that exposed the Epstein’s abuse of underage girls, identified nearly 80 victims and questioned the motives of why the wealthy man with ties to financial, political and cultural elites was given such lenient sentences in his prior convictions.

The Daily Mail report states that Epstein took responsibility for any damage to the cement truck in transit by paying upfront so that it would arrive even sooner. Epstein sent the machine with an Express Bill Of Lading, an unusual and expensive way of shipping an item so that it arrives quickly according to the Daily Mail.

William George, an analyst with shipping data firm Import Genius, told Daily Mail: “While the purchase of the cement mixer on its own is not suspicious, particularly given the reported and approved repair of cisterns on Little St. James, both the timing of the shipment and the fact that it’s the item in our records shipped with an express bill of lading do raise concerns.”

https://brobible.com/culture/article...-cement-truck/
Cleanup crew ? Maybe they filled whatever was underneath that temple building.

Then there was the big explosion and fire last year. Lots of "stuff" burnt up.
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Old 08-17-2019, 09:02 PM
 
Location: San Francisco Bay Area
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Those who commit suicide via leaning into a noose tied to a door knob or other lower structure supposedly lose consciousness when the blood flow to the brain is restricted. After that, it can take up to twenty minutes to die from lack of oxygen.

I'm not seeing where broken bones are part of this scenario.
Really? Go back and read my first post in this thread. It is not unusual to have a broken hyoid bone during suicide by hanging, especially when the person involved is older. Epstein was 66.
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