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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:15 PM
 
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JFC.

If you think Trump is the reason for the Clinton dislike ... then I don’t have enough time in my life to describe the how’s and why's and when’s of how dirty the Clinton’s actually are.

You need to do some research and not expect anyone here to spoon feed you.
I have no idea where to start with that research. What the hell do you Google. Clintons murdering people? I'm from overseas. Either there's a bunch of Americans who are huge conspiracy theorists with no basis or you're right and we overseas don't get to hear about any of it, if so why?

I would say that Hillary Clinton is well regarded overseas.

I'm not trying to be spoon fed, genuinely shocked by what I am reading in this thread.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:17 PM
 
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I voted "Yes" he did commit suicide, BUT I also believe he was allowed to.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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I believe Epstein had incriminating evidence of a lot of people in high places. I believe one of those people was Donald Trump.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:18 PM
 
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Here is what I get.
Jack Ruby didn't wake up one morning and decide to kill Oswald.

Powerful people wanted Epstein dead. The odds of it being the Clintons is about zero....not to say Bill didn't fiddle, but the powerful people in this sphere sit in the White House. DOJ, Trump, Israelis (BIG thing that PM was implicated and the UK "best people".

Add all those together and he is dead.

Do I think (the key word is "think") that, if given a cyanide pill, Jeff would have taken it? Of course, his life was.is over. But he didn't have that chance.

It's Win-Win for all involved (those who count - money and power) because he didn't want to live and they didn't want him to live.

The bigger question now is whether this has gone far enough along that it will still have legs. I think some diversion will occur - like the PB Police Dept. will be "investigated" (I use that because this is Florida...meaning a bigger crook investigates the smaller ones).....

We will just have to see about all the other crimes....I don't think he was going to testify anyway, but at least when he is alive a trial and grand juries can deal with the case. Now they are going to have to pick a bunch of other targets...

OR, not. Given the history of GOP Admins (Nixon, Iran-Contra, Scooter, Trump "pardon all" and such) one wonders if this is pretty much the end except for newspaper headlines and books.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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Joe Scarborough is invoking the Russians:

LOOOL. Every person implicated by his accuser in the defamation suit was a leftist Russia conspiracy nut. What a joke.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:20 PM
 
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I believe Epstein had incriminating evidence of a lot of people in high places. I believe one of those people was Donald Trump.
Possible, although Trump doesn't have the history of dead bodies rumors as the Clintons did.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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I believe Epstein had incriminating evidence of a lot of people in high places. I believe one of those people was Donald Trump.
Out of curioisty. What makes you believe this? The names that have been circulating were all democrats and international politicians. He was a Democrat bundler...
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:22 PM
 
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Epstein was held in FEDERAL prison. The people who could get to him are those connected to people in the FEDERAL government. Not someone from 20 yrs ago, but someone currently in the government.

BTW, though Trump is currently a 'pub, he was registered in various parties:

Democrat until 1987, and again from 2001–2009, Reform 1999–2001, Independent 2011–2012, Republican 1987–1999, 2009–2011, 2012–present
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:23 PM
 
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Here is what I get.
Jack Ruby didn't wake up one morning and decide to kill Oswald.

Powerful people wanted Epstein dead. The odds of it being the Clintons is about zero....not to say Bill didn't fiddle, but the powerful people in this sphere sit in the White House. DOJ, Trump, Israelis (BIG thing that PM was implicated and the UK "best people".

Add all those together and he is dead.

Do I think (the key word is "think") that, if given a cyanide pill, Jeff would have taken it? Of course, his life was.is over. But he didn't have that chance.

It's Win-Win for all involved (those who count - money and power) because he didn't want to live and they didn't want him to live.

The bigger question now is whether this has gone far enough along that it will still have legs. I think some diversion will occur - like the PB Police Dept. will be "investigated" (I use that because this is Florida...meaning a bigger crook investigates the smaller ones).....

We will just have to see about all the other crimes....I don't think he was going to testify anyway, but at least when he is alive a trial and grand juries can deal with the case. Now they are going to have to pick a bunch of other targets...

OR, not. Given the history of GOP Admins (Nixon, Iran-Contra, Scooter, Trump "pardon all" and such) one wonders if this is pretty much the end except for newspaper headlines and books.
Stop. Powerful people of any political persuasion can pay any one of a number of dirty government lackies. Do I believe anyone had anything to do with this? I don't know.
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Old 08-10-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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Possible, although Trump doesn't have the history of dead bodies rumors as the Clintons did.
If Clinton was POTUS and had the Senate too and this happened while he was there....and he also had spewed about how great Epstein was and was a brother-in-arms who loved younger women....

THEN, sure, I'd consider it.
As it stands? No way. Not even close. He's a very old man and so far down the list of who the Epstein case might actually affect (prosecutors aren't going to deal with 100's of cases).....that's it's virtually impossible.

On the other hand, the very man who let Epstein off light (Acosta) sat in the current white house and go that job expressly because of favors he did for people.

I'm not even accusing Trump because The Don doesn't get his hands dirty. He doesn't even have to comment on this one. All his loyal soldiers know what he would want.
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