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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Naw conspiracy theorists donít have to be white supremacits
Depends on the conspiracy they are trying to promote

Personally I think his estate has right to sue for negligence


And if they prevail, that's more money for those who are going to sue his estate lol.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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Prosecutors may have an easier time getting evidence entered into this case now that Epstein's attorneys can't protest.

Speculation that procurer Ray Chandler already testified before the DoJ and FBI. She is the equivalent of Allison Mack in the NXVIVM sex case. The prosecutors didn't need Keith Raneire to testify to get a conviction in NXVIVM. . Lower level people gave evidence. So with Epstein supposedly gone, Ghislaine Maxwell is the next level down along with Chandler. Probably others whom we have never heard of.

Buy popcorn!
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:17 PM
 
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Oh come on. He was on suicide watch and still died? He was murdered plain and simple. Do you think he would have given up on life while still having a fighting chance in court? Billionaires can afford the best legal defense. Bless your heart if you think he decided to end it himself.
Exactly
Being a billionaire, he could drag this through the courts for years and drag a lot of high profile people down with him.

The high profile people are very wealthy individuals that have a lot of control in DC and the global community and it would have grave consequences for them and our their connections so more than likely a secret conference was called to put an end to this since is is National Security Concern.

We see this time and time again in this country.

If you are at a monetary level, like the Bank Bail Outs and too big to fail, where your demise could harm the nation, then other means will be taken.

The people Epstein was associated with were high wealth people and dragging them through the mud for years, they would say would harm our nation.

Of course, it would not harm this country, but it would harm their power and wealth and other people would step in.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Then explain the coincidence of so may who have close ties to them are dropping like flies? Sorry but if people from both sides are agreeing on this..it's more than just a "right wing spin".
We will see what attorney general Barr finds because he vowed to get to the bottom of it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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It was a job by a Trump henchman to silence Epstein before he talked about details of Trump's sexual escapades with teenagers.

How's that for a conspiracy theory?

Strange that four investigations by gaggles of Trump hating Feds helped by intelligence agents in the UK, Italy, Australia found nothing of the sort. But keep wishing upon a star.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Strange that four investigations by gaggles of Trump hating Feds found nothing of the sort.
That, of course, would be part of the conspiracy.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Well regardless of how he died, it is incredibly embarrassing for the justice dept that this has happened.
I think that is safe to say. And just about the ONLY thing we can know for sure at this point.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Strange that four investigations by gaggles of Trump hating Feds helped by intelligence agents in the UK, Italy, Australia found nothing of the sort. But keep wishing upon a star.
This is a bit incriminating about trump

https://radaronline.com/wp-content/u...d4FuuVXdZUkly4
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:21 PM
 
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Exactly
Being a billionaire, he could drag this through the courts for years and drag a lot of high profile people down with him.

The high profile people are very wealthy individuals that have a lot of control in DC and the global community and it would have grave consequences for them and our their connections so more than likely a secret conference was called to put an end to this since is is National Security Concern.

We see this time and time again in this country.

If you are at a monetary level, like the Bank Bail Outs and too big to fail, where your demise could harm the nation, then other means will be taken.

The people Epstein was associated with were high wealth people and dragging them through the mud for years, they would say would harm our nation.

Of course, it would not harm this country, but it would harm their power and wealth and other people would step in.
It wasn't just the US though. Prince Andrew was named and the victims said they took pictures with him...PICTURES. Other royalty were named as well as global billionaires.
The list of names was a global who's who and spanned politics, business, education, entertainment.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:23 PM
 
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There are no theories, there are only two scenarios.

1 - He committed suicide voluntarily.
2 - It was a setup to appear to be suicide.

The most logical path is usually the truth.

Facts:

The protocol for a person, especially such a high profile man charged with being a habitual pedophile, that attempted suicide while in custody is to place them on 24-hour suicide watch non-stop.

Any psychologist worth their salt knows a sociopath will lie to get their way over every little thing. THAT is what they do. Why would they remove him from suicide watch?

Just yesterday a ton of documents were released that are quite damning not only to him but also to many high profile celebrities, politicians, corporate giants, elites. He would have dropped the hammer in a heartbeat to get a deal.

The timing of the documents, his being removed from suicide watch, and a successful 2nd attempt one day later, is quite suspect. Too many dominoes falling in place for it all to be a random collision of happenstance. A coincidence? HIGHLY unlikely.


The whole thing reeks like a sewer!
All anyone is doing is speculating. My post was talking about CYA for the prison management and they should have made every effort to keep this from happening, precisely because of all these conspiracy theories.

Why would they remove him? Because it is a much more intense form of supervision that needs medical/psychiatric staff to place him in and remove him from. Inmates don't like it. It makes the ability to see his attorneys more difficult.
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