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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
Voters: 429. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2019, 05:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by warhorse78 View Post
All I know is on my social media pages, both sides seem to agree that Epstein was murdered, either they be Trump supporters, or haters, hard core conservatives or hard core liberals, White, Black, Hispanic, rich, middle class, poor. This death is bringing people from all sides of the isle together. Only ones that are being left out are the minions who actually believe he committed actual suicide. Really, you all are the laughing stock of the community tonight! Good going on showing how brainwashed you sheople are!
Exactly.
What you need to be doing is spin this into a partisan topic so that pedophiles will be forgiven.
You see, if we make it so only Clinton or Trump is guilty for associating with Epstein, then the next time around it happens, it will be ok when the other party has a pedo in their ranks and will become the new norm.

An addition to the whataboutism.
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Old 08-10-2019, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Good Lord.

I'd call in the Warden and the Chief Psychologist to find out what happened.
Those are the 2 direct people responsible for Epstein.

Barr is far removed from this while the Warden and Chief Psychologist are physically there and personally responsible.

Do you think they called up Barr to ask his permission to take Epstein off suicide watch ?
No. And that isn't what I said.

Do you agree or disagree that the person in charge is nominally responsible for what happens under her/his watch?

The fact is, if there was skullduggery, I HIGHLY doubt that Barr would be involved. For the very reason that he IS nominally in charge of federal prisons, and wouldn't want that blot on his resume. So to speak.

He will have a lot of questions to answer. And until he answers them satisfactorily he will be in the hot seat. That's what it means to be in charge, and that is why they pay him the big bucks. Shrugging and saying "I dunno, that's not my responsibility" will not cut it.

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Old 08-10-2019, 05:58 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Yes, of course he must have had some help, maybe a gun pointed at his head.
Oh come on. A gunshot to the head is faster and easier than strangling to death. And a gunshot wound, assuming it was silenced, would be noticeable. Imagine the difficulty of covering that up.

The simplest explanation is the most probable. Epstein had help doing it himself, or he did it himself. The reason I hold out a possibility that he had help, is because the suicide watch had been lifted. I think if they focus on the why of that, something might surface. But no one went into a federal jail with a loaded gun, got into Epsteinís cell, and waved it around.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:04 PM
 
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If KARMA exists, he will still not be escaping consequences and will ultimately pay. (Just as his buddy D.T. will, who has escaped all of his life (so far) with no repercussions.
lol..trump's buddy. They had to dig back to 2002 to find that "connection".
yet no issue with Clinton's 26 trips logged on the Lolita Express ?
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:06 PM
 
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No. And that isn't what I said.

Do you agree or disagree that the person in charge is nominally responsible for what happens under her/his watch?

The fact is, if there was skullduggery, I HIGHLY doubt that Barr would be involved. For the very reason that he IS nominally in charge of federal prisons, and wouldn't want that blot on his resume. So to speak.

He will have a lot of questions to answer. And until he answers them satisfactorily he will be in the hot seat. That's what it means to be in charge, and that is why they pay him the big bucks. Shrugging and saying "I dunno, that's not my responsibility" will not cut it.
Fine then. You can look beyond the people directly involved but I think it's the Warden and Chief Psychologist that have to answer questions.

Lois Lerner took the sword for the IRS scandal. I think it originated above her. But she took one for the team, resigned, got her pension and most likely a padded bank account to put that scandal to rest.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Fine then. You can look beyond the people directly involved but I think it's the Warden and Chief Psychologist that have to answer questions.
I'm sure Barr will be investigating, and I'm sure they will have to account to him for themselves.

But if Congress gets involved - and I suspect they will - it will be Barr they will call.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Some one killed that guy in case he named names. Thats how the mob works....
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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So I saw that Trump is retweeting the conspiracy theory that the Clintons ordered the killing. Hmmm, sounds like he may be trying to take any heat off of himself and directing it towards the Clintons.
OF COURSE! Remember, his saying "rigged", "conspiracy", "crooked" and more, when it all applies to him. I envisoned that he breathed a sigh of relief, stupidly thinking he is "off the hook" (again), when possibly having had a hand in this event, himself.

He spends most of his time having something be diverted or deflected from himself, being utterly focused upon his escaping blame or consequences, his ENTIRE life.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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I think he just offed himself to not stand trial. Why is it so hard to believe just the facts?
The sad truthful answer is it is fun to think about whether a more conspiracy oriented answer is plausible.

I Hazzard to guess if people who voted YES were asked, do you really seriously think it wasn't just a simple suicide by someone who realized he would never walk free, that they would say NO.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: the Sticks
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Do I believe that Epstein committed suicide?

I believe e that people have been suicided, that knew a lot less and had less dirt, on people of power.

It would take a lot to convince me that this was just a scared man saying screw it I want to die.
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