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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
Voters: 429. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-10-2019, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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It's hysterical that Trumplings think that the Clintons actually have more to lose than Trump. Bill Clinton has been out of office for decades. Hillary Clinton isn't running for anything. Donald Trump is running for reelection and has the biggest stake in this trial going away. That's simple facts, but we all know that these days, the right is simpleminded, and cares nothing about facts.
Trump deflecting and retweeting Clinton conspiracy theories, today.

Both of them knew and socialized with Epstein many years ago. No one has accused either of them with messing with underaged girls.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Southwest Washington State
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Everything We Know About Jeffrey Epstein

This is a summary. of what is known.

Some sources indicate that Epstein was held by the feds, and other sources seem to point to a local jail.

There should be camera or cameras, apparently, and the suicide should be/is recorded. If so, there will be no question how he died.

People are free to hate the Clintons, but freely disseminating that they are responsible without evidence is surely slander.

Right now we know very little except that Epstein is dead.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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The sad truthful answer is it is fun to think about whether a more conspiracy oriented answer is plausible.

I Hazzard to guess if people who voted YES were asked, do you really seriously think it wasn't just a simple suicide by someone who realized he would never walk free, that they would say NO.
I agree. We are in a post-truth era where facts don't matter. The truth is Epstein likely did off himself not wanting to go to trial due to his past and how it went the last time. There is no way he would get a truly fair trial.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: California
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Well regardless of how he died, it is incredibly embarrassing for the justice dept that this has happened.
Yes it is. Very bizarre nobody saw anything.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:56 PM
 
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It was a failure of the MCC to make sure this guy stayed alive. People will be in trouble.
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Old 08-10-2019, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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The fact that somebody "suicided" him once but failed was scandalous! This man should be better guarded and protected than the US President. The number of powerful people this man had the goods on was staggering and powerful people shouldn't just get away with raping underage girls. The fact anyone got another crack at "suiciding" Epstein after the first failed attempt is mind-blowing! Nobody can be that incompetent on purpose. The fact that the cameras "malfunctioned" is the nail in the coffin folks. This man was murdered to shut him up. Now the only question is, "Will they get away with it??" Unfortunately, the most likely answer is, "Yes." This guy was as good as dead the moment he went to a real prison and we're about to see Ted Kennedy levels of accountability over his murder.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Proxima Centauri
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Of course Epstein committed suicide. Billionaires don't do well in jail at all, and they know it.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Colorado
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Does anyone else think it may not be the AG's job to contact wardens of prisons to see whether a high profile prisoner is on suicide watch?
I would normally agree that it might not be, or that the AG cannot reasonably check on every suicide watch....but given that *this* particular prisoner had ties to both past and current presidents, I'd think the AG would *make* it a priority to personally check.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Prosecute who?
The plaintiff is dead.
The other men involved. Did you forget about them?

If it's true that Epstein left behind a whole bunch of photos, vids, and docs, those other guys can still be called to account.

It would be a novel legal theory that if the main offender is dead, you can't prosecute anyone else involved. Sex with teenagers is AGAINST THE LAW. Regardless of who introduces them to you.
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Old 08-10-2019, 07:08 PM
 
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Barr doesn't seem to be the micro manager type. It's just ridiculous to think that he was bird dogging this at all when there are umpteen levels of management between him and the prison staff. The MCC f'd this up.
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