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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:38 AM
 
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I researched it. One guy on Fox News said there were thumbprints. All of the other sources said 'marks.'

If they were thumbprints, they could have lifted and identified them. So they probably were not thumbprints, but it does make a more sensational, if inaccurate, story.

And if someone had tried to kill him before, he probably would have mentioned it to his attorney.
Not fingerprints - lifting fingerprints from human skin is insanely difficult and many times impossible.

What is meant by thumbprints - is that there was bruising on his neck that had the placement of where thumbs would be if someone was strangling someone.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:39 AM
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Location: North Monterey County
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Behind every untimely death there lies a Clinton or a Putin.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/cl...lmGHdIedSwwyBA
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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If Clinton was POTUS and had the Senate too and this happened while he was there....and he also had spewed about how great Epstein was and was a brother-in-arms who loved younger women....

THEN, sure, I'd consider it.
As it stands? No way. Not even close. He's a very old man and so far down the list of who the Epstein case might actually affect (prosecutors aren't going to deal with 100's of cases).....that's it's virtually impossible.

On the other hand, the very man who let Epstein off light (Acosta) sat in the current white house and go that job expressly because of favors he did for people.

I'm not even accusing Trump because The Don doesn't get his hands dirty. He doesn't even have to comment on this one. All his loyal soldiers know what he would want.
I suppose itís not common enough information to expect anyone to be aware of this, because the media has turned a blind eye, but arrests of people alleged to be involved in pedophile sex trafficking rings has increased exponentially since Trump took office, both on the National and international fronts. Itís likely that these efforts are responsible for shedding new like on Epstein, and the powerful individuals involved with him.

Moreover, this scourge is much bigger than the average person is aware of ... far larger than just this particular Epstein case. What this case does do is expose just how pervasive, and to what high levels this reaches. There are simply too many powerful people connected to this to point a finger at one.

I suspect, as many with more knowledge of the background do, that Epstein was an state sponsored intelligence operative (perhaps MOSAD) entrapping and compromising high level individuals in these dastardly activities for the purpose of control, via blackmail. There are many questions regarding where all of Epsteinís money came from .... the private island with the strange temple that looks rather Egyptian in nature, etc.

To direct this ďconspiracyĒ toward Clinton is rather absurd (even though there is a vast history of people connected with the Clintons committing suicide) as this is far bigger than them, though Bill was a frequent guest on the LOLITA EXPRESS, and did visit orgy island .... many others did too.

The people behind Epstein are surely above the level of Bill and Hillary Clinton .... with such power in play, Epsteinís death was inevitable. He was never going to see a trial.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:46 AM
 
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It's a continuous pattern and an obvious one. Whenever deflection is needed, social media goes nuts pushing the latest right wing conspiracy theory, fake news or talking points. Russian bots/paid posters do exist and they help push what needs to be pushed. Look at the tremendous online interest by "conservatives" in Tulsi Gabbard, for example.
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:54 AM
 
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So who investigates Barr for following POTUS’s demands?

After all Trump said "he could shoot someone on Broadway ~~~".

He's not above doing anything he wants!
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:54 AM
 
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Thing is, who would he send these videos to, to nail these people to the wall? They own the media and the news papers, so they control what the public gets to see. They have the majority of the courts and judges in their back pocket, so don't expect a messenger to drop off a package to the district attorney's office and see some justice that way. Forget it on a federal level. The heads of the FBI and CIA are on speed dial for these people. And forget about uploading the video on social media, due to all of the censorship that is prevalent.

And that is the sad state we are in folks. We could have all the evidence in the world, but the people who have the power to do something about it were bought up long ago by the elite establishment.
You never know...the CIA maybe for international blackmail ?
Epstein peddled kids for sex on a global scale.
His black book reads like a who's who encompassing all areas..royalty, billionaires, entertainment, etc.

When they raided his homes they found both hidden video/audio equipment in all those bedrooms.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:03 AM
 
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If Clinton was POTUS and had the Senate too and this happened while he was there....and he also had spewed about how great Epstein was and was a brother-in-arms who loved younger women....

THEN, sure, I'd consider it.
As it stands? No way. Not even close. He's a very old man and so far down the list of who the Epstein case might actually affect (prosecutors aren't going to deal with 100's of cases).....that's it's virtually impossible.

On the other hand, the very man who let Epstein off light (Acosta) sat in the current white house and go that job expressly because of favors he did for people.

I'm not even accusing Trump because The Don doesn't get his hands dirty. He doesn't even have to comment on this one. All his loyal soldiers know what he would want.
Well one can ask the question why ? Why did Acosta back off ?
Acosta is a nobody compared to the list of names that got released.
Maybe, just maybe Acosta got some "pressure" to make it all go away.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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It's a continuous pattern and an obvious one. Whenever deflection is needed, social media goes nuts pushing the latest right wing conspiracy theory, fake news or talking points. Russian bots/paid posters do exist and they help push what needs to be pushed. Look at the tremendous online interest by "conservatives" in Tulsi Gabbard, for example.
Come on Elliot, Russia has NOTHING to do with this.

Its about US elite in Wall Street, Academia, Hollywood, and Politics protecting themselves.

American elite are all degenerate trash and the use russia to protect themselves.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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A lawyer for one of Epsteinís victims says the only high powered person who helped them in 2009 as they began their pursuit for justice was President @realDonaldTrump. He talks about it at the 5:30 mark in this video. https://t.co/GeVzWt8deh
ó Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) July 7, 2019
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Hah..those "not having had any connection for 15 years"....well, what else is new, D. T. always telling untruths.
Oh good lord, reading comprehension fail here. The lawyer for the victim who was suing Epstein said when they sued Epstein in 2009, Trump was one of the only people to help. No one else would talk to them but Trump did. Your blind hatred for Trump seems to even impact your reading skills - that is worrisome.
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Old 08-11-2019, 09:13 AM
 
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Never Mind Clintons , tell me where are all the Trump and "good & dear friend Epstein " stories ???
The golden salacious suicide finale of Trump's child porn king buddy laying right at the media's fingertips as we speak .
And zilch for news stories linking him ???
Yes , the same child porn king " Good Friend Of Trump's " we were given news stories ad nauseam just a few weeks ago.
OOPS !
And do you know how many of the " Sunday News " shows are all over the salacious suicide finale of Trump's dear child porn king friend Epstein killing himself ???
Not one ?
Zero ?
Not even a syllable being mentioned linking Trump to his good pal now in this golden opportunity suicide finale ?
What in the world could be causing the media that wants to get Trump so bad to be putting the brakes on running a suicide
finale story featuring Trump's dear friend connections ???
Perhaps with even added speculation that Trump might secretly send flowers or attend the funeral ???
Maybe a file photo of Trump looking sad and forlorn added for effect ?
Or more accurately what is forcing the media against every already clearly evidenced overzealous instinct they have made in connecting Trump to Epstein to back off so completely in doing so now ????????????????????
OOPS !
Who's doing the deflecting ?
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