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Old 08-11-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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Your boy Bill had 26 visits with Epstein. Trump had not seen him in 15 years. Keep trying!
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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So Trump, the man that is constantly shouting fake news, retweeted a tweet that Clinton was behind it. DJT never fails to rise from the gutter. He is without a doubt absolutely disgusting and vile.

Some say Trump retweeted to deflect attention away from himself and administration.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Jsut a refresher of the power of the Clintons.
1 - James McDougal - The Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr"s investigation.

2 - Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown . The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3 - Vince Foster - Former White House councilor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock"s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4 - Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown"s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller commited suicide.

5 - C. Victor Raiser, II - Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.

6 - Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, September 1992. Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".

7 - Ed Willey - Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton raped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8 - Jerry Parks - Head of Clinton"s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park"s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton . He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9 - James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas

10 - James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide . He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..

11 - Kathy Ferguson - Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head . It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit . Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12 - Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.

13 - Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton"s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14 - Florence Martin - Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena , Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15 - Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16 - Paula Grober - Clinton"s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.

17 - Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18 - Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19 - Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

2 0 - Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21 - Charles Meissner - Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22 - Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton "s advisory council personally treated Clinton"s mother, stepfather and brother.

23 - Barry Seal - Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.

24 - Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25 - Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26 - Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.

27 - Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the “ track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

28. Let's not forget Admiral Jeremy Michael Borda, Chief of Naval Operations under Bill Clinton who shot himself before being interviewed by Newsweek by Col. David Hackworth (ret) about wearing an unauthorized device on a decoration.



THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28 - Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, July 1988.

29 - Keith McMaskle - Died, stabbed 113 times, November 1988

30 - Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31 - Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

32 - James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes".

33 - Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

34 - Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.



THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36 - Major William S. Barkley, Jr.

37 - Captain Scott J. Reynolds

38 - Sgt. Brian Hanley

39 - Sgt. Tim Sabel

40 - Major General William Robertson

41 - Col. William Densberge r

42 - Col. Robert Kelly

43 - Spec. Gary Rhodes

44 - Steve Willis

45 - Robert Williams

46 - Conway LeBleu

47 - Todd McKeehan

These lists have been thoroughly debunked.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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It may be a conspiracy theory but I feel that Trump indirectly engineered Epstein's death.

After all with Trump there's no such things as friendship. There's only deals, deals and more deals.

Epstein likely knew something that Trump didn't want to be made known.
Anything is possible and if you're right then I'm all for Trump rotting in prison for it, but the Clintons certainly look a helluva lot more guilty. Flying on the guy's jet 27 times, ditching your Secret Service detail every single time. Plus, right or wrong, the Clintons have gained a lot more notoriety for leaving a trail of dead bodies in their wake. Even if they had nothing to do with it, they're going to be blamed by more people than anyone else. Plus, Epstein was a lot closer to the Clintons and other powerful Democrats. He visited Clinton in the White House four times, helped found the Clinton Initiative and overwhelmingly donated to Democrats campaigning or political office. Of course, when Trump would have interacted with the guy, Trump was buddies with the Clintons as well. Trump was a card carrying Democrat at the time too, so it makes sense who he was hanging out with.

It's possible that I'm not seeing Trump as a very likely person to have had the guy killed because we've combed over and over and over Donald Trump's life, and for an obnoxious self-important dick, the guy is surprisingly clean. He also does a good job of surrounding himself with smart people that keep him from doing anything supremely stupid. But if it's Trump, then by all means lock him up!

Very good chance that the Brits killed the guy, what with one of their royal family being implicated for raping underaged girls. The UK has enough child-rape problems without having to deal with the backlash of Prince Andrew being guilty of it too.

The biggest problem is that there were just so many people that would have wanted this guy dead.

I'm honestly open to any possibility.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:36 PM
 
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He looks remarkable similar to Anthony Bourdain!
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Your boy Bill had 26 visits with Epstein. Trump had not seen him in 15 years. Keep trying!
Bill is not "my boy." Could care less if he was convicted of whatever.

But since you mention it, many of these young women were recruited at Mar-A-Lago. Guess who owns Mar-A-Lago?
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Why is it deplorable?

I guess nothing happened and we should all shut up.
Deplorable: A POTUS retweeting a conspiracy theory thatís been disproven by multiple federal investigations, including Ken Starr.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:37 PM
 
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Some say Trump retweeted to deflect attention away from himself and administration.
Or maybe in retaliation for the many MSM articles showing him and Epstein together over 20 years ago portraying them as BFFs.

Could go either way. Those with their partisan blindfolds on will only see what they want to see.

Epstein was a GLOBAL pedo trafficker.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Epstein became a liability to the global elite.
Well, Bill Clinton should not have become involved with a predatory creep like Epstein, he should not have taken all those trips and played with the girls. Now he has to worry, unless he can buy off the Prosecutors.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Anything is possible and if you're right then I'm all for Trump rotting in prison for it, but the Clintons certainly look a helluva lot more guilty. Flying on the guy's jet 27 times, ditching your Secret Service detail every single time. Plus, right or wrong, the Clintons have gained a lot more notoriety for leaving a trail of dead bodies in their wake. Even if they had nothing to do with it, they're going to be blamed by more people than anyone else. Plus, Epstein was a lot closer to the Clintons and other powerful Democrats. He visited Clinton in the White House four times, helped found the Clinton Initiative and overwhelmingly donated to Democrats campaigning or political office. Of course, when Trump would have interacted with the guy, Trump was buddies with the Clintons as well. Trump was a card carrying Democrat at the time too, so it makes sense who he was hanging out with.

It's possible that I'm not seeing Trump as a very likely person to have had the guy killed because we've combed over and over and over Donald Trump's life, and for an obnoxious self-important dick, the guy is surprisingly clean. He also does a good job of surrounding himself with smart people that keep him from doing anything supremely stupid. But if it's Trump, then by all means lock him up!

Very good chance that the Brits killed the guy, what with one of their royal family being implicated for raping underaged girls. The UK has enough child-rape problems without having to deal with the backlash of Prince Andrew being guilty of it too.

The biggest problem is that there were just so many people that would have wanted this guy dead.

I'm honestly open to any possibility.
For all we know he could have sold some of those tapes/photos to foreign government intelligence for blackmail use.

That would certainly make him a liability.

People in those circles have no remorse and have enough money to buy silence.
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