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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
Voters: 429. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-11-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Originally Posted by TMSRetired View Post
Epstein became a liability to the global elite.
Well, Bill Clinton should not have become involved with a predatory creep like Epstein, he should not have taken all those trips and played with the girls. Now he has to worry, unless he can buy off the Prosecutors.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:40 PM
 
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Anything is possible and if you're right then I'm all for Trump rotting in prison for it, but the Clintons certainly look a helluva lot more guilty. Flying on the guy's jet 27 times, ditching your Secret Service detail every single time. Plus, right or wrong, the Clintons have gained a lot more notoriety for leaving a trail of dead bodies in their wake. Even if they had nothing to do with it, they're going to be blamed by more people than anyone else. Plus, Epstein was a lot closer to the Clintons and other powerful Democrats. He visited Clinton in the White House four times, helped found the Clinton Initiative and overwhelmingly donated to Democrats campaigning or political office. Of course, when Trump would have interacted with the guy, Trump was buddies with the Clintons as well. Trump was a card carrying Democrat at the time too, so it makes sense who he was hanging out with.

It's possible that I'm not seeing Trump as a very likely person to have had the guy killed because we've combed over and over and over Donald Trump's life, and for an obnoxious self-important dick, the guy is surprisingly clean. He also does a good job of surrounding himself with smart people that keep him from doing anything supremely stupid. But if it's Trump, then by all means lock him up!

Very good chance that the Brits killed the guy, what with one of their royal family being implicated for raping underaged girls. The UK has enough child-rape problems without having to deal with the backlash of Prince Andrew being guilty of it too.

The biggest problem is that there were just so many people that would have wanted this guy dead.

I'm honestly open to any possibility.
For all we know he could have sold some of those tapes/photos to foreign government intelligence for blackmail use.

That would certainly make him a liability.

People in those circles have no remorse and have enough money to buy silence.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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These lists have been thoroughly debunked.
Some of it but not all of it can be reliably debunked. Much of it just wouldn't hold up in a court of law. It's basically the same scenario as Trump. You'd never get him in court for Russian Collusion or Obstruction of Justice, but you can't prove him innocent either. So too with Clinton, it's possible that many of the dead bodies they've left in their wake were people they ordered to be killed, but there isn't enough to prove that in court. And the folks doing the debunking have a pretty bad habit of carrying water for the Democratic Party. Case in point, Snopes just gets more and more partisan and awful year by year.

It would be nice to have a neutral fact-checker out there, but as far as I'm aware, there is no such thing.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Im not a Trump voter, supporter, believer, etc. so the partisan nonsense is lost on me. I expect his second term will be painful for most, especially for those with diminished coping skills due to ideological/party loyalties


With this case, I'm concerned about how and who had Epstein suicided and seeing those in law enforcement named and put on trial. D or R matters not a whit to me.
And I take no comfort in the fact that the wholly untrustworthy and incompetent FBI is going to i̶n̶s̶t̶i̶g̶a̶t̶e̶ investigate.
Barr’s Department of Justice is investigating.

Barr could have made clear the highest profile person in custody in this facility remain under Suicide Watch.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:42 PM
 
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Well, Bill Clinton should not have become involved with a predatory creep like Epstein, he should not have taken all those trips and played with the girls. Now he has to worry, unless he can buy off the Prosecutors.
There are plane logs but they didn't go to Epstein's orgy island.
And those are official logs filed with the FAA.

There is no proof Clinton went there. Just an allegation by one of the victims.
Now would a 14 year old know who Clinton was ?
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Your boy Bill had 26 visits with Epstein. Trump had not seen him in 15 years. Keep trying!
Was the Secret Service there, too?

All investigation into Epstein's helpers and employees are continuing. You can't prosecute a dead man. But the pilots, housekeepers and pimps are still on the hook.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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Barr’s Department of Justice is investigating.

Barr could have made clear the highest profile person in custody in this facility remain under Suicide Watch.
From what I've read Barr didn't know he was off suicide watch.

Geeze..they managed to keep El Chapo in the same jail and he's the master of escape.

Barr isn't the Warden there. You think he should have kept up with the day to day dealing with Epstein ?
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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He looks remarkable similar to Anthony Bourdain!
Nah.

In head shots, vaguely, if you squint.

But Bourdain was about a foot taller than that little weasel.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Was the Secret Service there, too?

All investigation into Epstein's helpers and employees are continuing. You can't prosecute a dead man. But the pilots, housekeepers and pimps are still on the hook.
Yeah for some of them. The logs show all the SS when they traveled with Clinton.
But there were some logs that had Clinton only..no SS entourage.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Some of it but not all of it can be reliably debunked. Much of it just wouldn't hold up in a court of law. It's basically the same scenario as Trump. You'd never get him in court for Russian Collusion or Obstruction of Justice, but you can't prove him innocent either. So too with Clinton, it's possible that many of the dead bodies they've left in their wake were people they ordered to be killed, but there isn't enough to prove that in court. And the folks doing the debunking have a pretty bad habit of carrying water for the Democratic Party. Case in point, Snopes just gets more and more partisan and awful year by year.

It would be nice to have a neutral fact-checker out there, but as far as I'm aware, there is no such thing.
"One must accept that Bill Clinton was able to suppress any evidence, leaks, or whistleblowers despite having proven that he was unable to lie effectively about a simple blowjob."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clinton_body_count
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