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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I researched it. One guy on Fox News said there were thumbprints. All of the other sources said 'marks.'

If they were thumbprints, they could have lifted and identified them. So they probably were not thumbprints, but it does make a more sensational, if inaccurate, story.

And if someone had tried to kill him before, he probably would have mentioned it to his attorney.
Some guys on Fox News or any news say a lot of things that are unconfirmed or outright lies.

And sometimes they get sued for it and lose.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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There are plane logs but they didn't go to Epstein's orgy island.
And those are official logs filed with the FAA.

There is no proof Clinton went there. Just an allegation by one of the victims.
Now would a 14 year old know who Clinton was ?
Do you think Bill Clinton would have reported his real name down on the flight logs? I think NOT. I can't wait until they start digging deep on this. I hope they have Epstein's diaries and other dirty proof to see exactly who did what. I can bet Bill Clinton's name was fabricated, in case it were to come back and bite him on his behind! (like today)

Let the investigation BEGIN! You think he would tell Hillary, "Yeah honey, I am going with Epstein to play some Monopoly games." He lied to her and has lied to her for all the years they were married. Where is his accountability in all this? Hopefully, finally Bill needs to face justice!
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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For all we know he could have sold some of those tapes/photos to foreign government intelligence for blackmail use.

That would certainly make him a liability.

People in those circles have no remorse and have enough money to buy silence.
Yes but it also sounds like the kind of guy you'd be terrified to kill. Every indication says that Epstein was a really smart guy. Evil genius perhaps, but smart nonetheless. Would such a man be stupid enough to not have a foolproof Dead Man's Switch that would release every scrap of data the instant he dies.

Rule #1 for conning the most powerful people in the world: Make sure that killing you is an absolutely terrible idea. If he didn't have some kind of insurance plan, the guy would have been dead long ago.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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This snake was as clever as he was evil . That is how he got to be a billionaire in the first place .
After his first arrest 10 years ago , maybe even before , and because of the powerful crowd he ran with who enjoyed his likeminded sexual proclivities towards children , you can be sure of one thing he had secured a " Get Out Of Jail Free Card " , or
more accurately , a " Get Out Of Jail Secretly Recorded Video Library " of very powerful players for himself .
One thing that is a well established fact with these child predators is they love them their videos .
In fact video is how the vast overwhelming majority of them are caught and convicted .
I suspect the first instance of Epstein having to be hospitalized for " injuries " which as of yet have never been detailed was the result of others being a little overzealous in " helping " him remember where his " Get Out Of Jail Free Video Library " has been secreted / clouded away .
Having applied as much persuasion as a human could stand and feeling they had done all they could it was time to put Epstein to bed for good .
Whether they got what they wanted out of him time will only tell . My guess is that this snake knew it was over for him anyway and outsmarted them . They just don't know it , YET !

If he had unaltered videos, they could have been released at any point in time, including post humous. His death would not prevent this.

Someone, somewhere, could start releasing a video every week for years, regardless if Epstein was dead or alive.
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Old 08-11-2019, 12:59 PM
 
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Yes but it also sounds like the kind of guy you'd be terrified to kill. Every indication says that Epstein was a really smart guy. Evil genius perhaps, but smart nonetheless. Would such a man be stupid enough to not have a foolproof Dead Man's Switch that would release every scrap of data the instant he dies.

Rule #1 for conning the most powerful people in the world: Make sure that killing you is an absolutely terrible idea. If he didn't have some kind of insurance plan, the guy would have been dead long ago.
Maybe that's what the first suicide attempt accomplished...they got the goods from him.

Tin foil of course but anyone that got "suicided" in the past..it was done the first time.

That's one angle circulating on the conspiracy sites.

FWIW his girlfriend and partner has not been seen nor heard from.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Thing is, who would he send these videos to, to nail these people to the wall? They own the media and the news papers, so they control what the public gets to see. They have the majority of the courts and judges in their back pocket, so don't expect a messenger to drop off a package to the district attorney's office and see some justice that way. Forget it on a federal level. The heads of the FBI and CIA are on speed dial for these people. And forget about uploading the video on social media, due to all of the censorship that is prevalent.

And that is the sad state we are in folks. We could have all the evidence in the world, but the people who have the power to do something about it were bought up long ago by the elite establishment.
Did not stop WikiLeaks, did it?
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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Nah.

In head shots, vaguely, if you squint.

But Bourdain was about a foot taller than that little weasel.
I was referring to that gurney shot circulating...the body on the stretcher's nose looks curved like Bourdains, look closely at the bridge.

Furthermore, with analyses of that profile shot, the head is approx. 3 1/2 ft , in scale to the stretcher.

Looks photo shopped.

It's uncanny, and I'm usually not the conspiracy type.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:03 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Maybe that's what the first suicide attempt accomplished...they got the goods from him.

Tin foil of course but anyone that got "suicided" in the past..it was done the first time.

That's one angle circulating on the conspiracy sites.

FWIW his girlfriend and partner has not been seen nor heard from.

Even the dead cant be trusted.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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These lists have been thoroughly debunked.
Right
link and proof?
Or, let me ask you this. How many people do you know have died, or committed suicide. Thats an awful lot of assumptions to think Clinton had nothing to do with their deaths..
He is a very powerful man.. Anyone who can call a DA and tell them to let a drug trafficker go, even with overwhelming evidence, is a powerful man we can only dream of.
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Old 08-11-2019, 01:06 PM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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Right
link and proof?
Or, let me ask you this. How many people do you know have died, or committed suicide. Thats an awful lot of assumptions to think Clinton had nothing to do with their deaths..
He is a very powerful man.. Anyone who can call a DA and tell them to let a drug trafficker go, even with overwhelming evidence, is a powerful man we can only dream of.
I have had 2 former bosses die of cancer within a couple years after I ceased working at those places of employment.

Does that mean I'm spreading cancer left and right?
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