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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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There are plane logs but they didn't go to Epstein's orgy island.
And those are official logs filed with the FAA.

There is no proof Clinton went there. Just an allegation by one of the victims.
Now would a 14 year old know who Clinton was ?
Pilots can manufacture or omit names.

It was Epstein’s plane and his pilots.

Many of the rich and powerful have their own planes. No reason for them to adhere to someone else’s schedule.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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I called them flight logs as that is what the article called them.
This document calls them flight manifests.


https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...manifests.html
Not a manifest. Again, that’s a copy of a pilot’s logbook. Pretty much all civilian pilots have one from the time they are a student pilot.
What the pilot chooses to enter in “remarks” in their logbook is up to him or her as the case may be.

John Cook from Gawker mistakingly labels exhibit MM as flight manifests. This is not uncommon as journalists frequently get aviation terms wrong.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:10 PM
 
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Pilots can manufacture or omit names.

It was Epstein’s plane and his pilots.

Many of the rich and powerful have their own planes. No reason for them to adhere to someone else’s schedule.

Well it's exhibit MM in submitted testimony.
and the Pilot's name is on the manifest.

We'll see if he made up names and listed Clinton and all those SS guys.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:13 PM
 
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Just read that his guard died in a car wreck tomorrow.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Well it's exhibit MM in submitted testimony.
and the Pilot's name is on the manifest.

We'll see if he made up names and listed Clinton and all those SS guys.
I doubt he made anything up out of whole cloth. What would his motive have been?

A lot more likely that he omitted some names, just because he didn't know them or didn't consider them important to mention.

Pretty sure he would not have made up either the plane's points of departure or destinations.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:21 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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She's laying low in some other country.

Since she's not a US citizen, we won't be seeing her in court unless we extradite her. I believe she is a citizen of the UK or maybe Australia (she is Rupert Murdoch's daughter, in case you don't know), but I'm not sure which country legally claims her.

Or, and I just thought of this, unless some other country decides to try her and/or other participants. Seems to me that it is highly unlikely that Epstein confined his sex trafficking to the US.
She's the youngest child of disgraced publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell. Let's keep the facts straight, if possible.

Incidentally, Rupert Murdoch is Australian by birth and an American citizen. Ghislaine Maxwell is a British citizen.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Do you think Bill Clinton would have reported his real name down on the flight logs? I think NOT. I can't wait until they start digging deep on this. I hope they have Epstein's diaries and other dirty proof to see exactly who did what. I can bet Bill Clinton's name was fabricated, in case it were to come back and bite him on his behind! (like today)

Let the investigation BEGIN! You think he would tell Hillary, "Yeah honey, I am going with Epstein to play some Monopoly games." He lied to her and has lied to her for all the years they were married. Where is his accountability in all this? Hopefully, finally Bill needs to face justice!
Diaries? We are not talking about a star struck 11 year old, here.

He served a total of 13 months at a Club Fed facility in 2008-9. He spent most of that time on work release, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week, in his own office and adjacent area.

He was a free man for nearly a decade prior to this past July.

No one is going to find anything, he did not want found. And some of what’s found might be contrived.
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Milwaukee
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Lefties you now have your instructions from Shareblue on what talking points to use when discussing the Epstein story online.

Here is the list:

DO NOT -deny the possibility of foul play;
DO NOT - excuse Epstein of his potential crimes, or doubt the validity of his guilt;
DO NOT - link to the current court documents regarding Epstein or use them in constructing your argument.

DO - sympathize with the potential victims of Epstein;
DO - remind people of the prior allegations of President Trump (Talk Subject 14C);
DO - remind people of Trump’s prior quotes regarding Epstein and their proven interactions together (Talk Subject 34, currently bare bones);
DO - remind people of the power that the President of the United States holds in comparison to members of the public;
DO - as always, ROLCON

Once again we need as many Stalwarts active as possible. We also need Stalwarts help in updating the latest Keynotes in regards to this developing situation.”

The last item on the DO list is ROLCON, which means role play as a conservative on social media.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com...ge-2/#comments
Ha! Nobody knows who shareblue is and nobody cares who shareblue is.

Also, just so you know, PilgrimsProgress beat you to the punch last night.

Alt Left Shareblue issues talking points for online trolls re: spinning Epstein story
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:28 PM
 
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Somebody probably paid them off to look the other way. Now..... who would have incentive and the means to do such a thing?
the clinton crime cartel
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Old 08-11-2019, 02:36 PM
 
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She's the youngest child of disgraced publishing tycoon Robert Maxwell. Let's keep the facts straight, if possible.
You're right, I had a brain fart there. For some reason, Maxwell and Murdoch seem like much the same person to me.


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Incidentally, Rupert Murdoch is Australian by birth and an American citizen. Ghislaine Maxwell is a British citizen.
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