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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
It's hard to combat a criminal organization like the Clintons.


Keep in mind most of those employees (given where they live) are democrats and that the "deep state" is still populated by Obama hires.
That's the mindless conspiracy fed to you by fake news "sources."
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I wonder how much the Clintons had to pay to get the job done?
And tRump's followers obediently swallow whatever's served up.

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Old 08-12-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Terrence Williams

Died of SUICIDE on 24/7 SUICIDE WATCH ? Yeah right! How does that happen

#JefferyEpstein had information on Bill Clinton & now heís dead

I see #TrumpBodyCount trending but we know who did this!

RT if youíre not Surprised

https://mobile.twitter.com/w_terrenc...56105399967744
Epstein knew thousands of people over the years. This includes Trump and Clinton.

Thus far, no victim has accused Trump or Clinton of anything.

Nothing suggests Epstein was ever going to testify or if he did, it would be honest.

His defense team bargained hard for bail. It was denied.

He may or may not have had tapes which could be released by someone at any time, including post humous. His death is meaningless, assuming he and/ or his primary accomplices have unaltered proof of those who engaged with teen girls. Heck, if he was murdered, it may increase the likelihood that proof could be released.

I am holding with the position he killed himself and did so as a giant FU. This is a guy who previously persuaded guards during his prior 13 month incarceration to bring him good food, give him hair cuts, leave his cell door unlocked on top of all the other perks he received. Convincing shrinks he was not at risk for suicide was easy.

Where oh where is Ghislaine Maxwell, Epsteinís primary recruiter?
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:46 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
It's hard to combat a criminal organization like the Clintons.


Keep in mind most of those employees (given where they live) are democrats and that the "deep state" is still populated by Obama hires.


I wonder how much the Clintons had to pay to get the job done?
Then you admit that Barr has no control over his own Department of Justice? So not only is he a groveling Trump flunky he's an incompetent schlemiel (that's a Jewish word you might need to look it up) as well.
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:49 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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I asked the question when this came out... other than reports and a couple of photos of him riding on a gurney - is he really officially dead? Truth can be stranger than fiction, especially with people who have a ton of money.

Maybe he was given an anesthetic for his gurney ride. Escape attempt? Just asking questions...
Thatís on the DOJ.

That Epsteinís suicide watch ended on or about month end created the opportunity.
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Old Hippie Heaven
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Originally Posted by hawkeye2009 View Post
It's hard to combat a criminal organization like the Clintons.


Keep in mind most of those employees (given where they live) are democrats and that the "deep state" is still populated by Obama hires.


I wonder how much the Clintons had to pay to get the job done?
Maybe Trump's been in cahoots with the Clintons all along? He's just been doing a great job of faking all of us out. After all, even many of his supporters here have said that they love how well he trolls us Ds.

Maybe he's not a troll but a Poe. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:54 AM
 
Location: NC
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The media will call you a "conspiracy theorist" if you question the official narrative. And remember now "conspiracy theorists" are lumped in as "white supremacists." See how their game works?
Weak attempt at gaslighting. Of course all the conspiracy theorists want to act like anyone who ID's a conspiracy is the crazy one.

The more important question is WHO had him off'd? As mentioned, plenty of powerful people on all sides had motive.

Trump and the Clintons top the list, but there are many others.

I wonder what the Vegas odds are for picking the right culprit?
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:57 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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This is more entertaining than I thought it would be. We have BOTH sets of conspiracy whacks hard at work for this one. Either the "Clinton family" had him killed, or the "Trump crime syndicate" somehow had him eliminated. Since both political machines have had plenty of contact and interaction with Epstein, it's a free for all. After all it's a lot more exciting to promote some nutty idea than to examine the reality of the situation, which is that the prison system failed us miserably in terms of bringing justice for this guy's victims.
Here's my theory: the Clinton people teamed up with the Trump people to get Epstein whacked. Yeah, that's the ticket.
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Old 08-12-2019, 07:59 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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I rather doubt it was the Clintons. Too obvious. Not that they wouldnt.

Someone either.
worth 100MM+ likely 500MM+
or
member or former member of congress, president, cabinet.
or
high end family like Clintons

Some will still be prosecuted but this will drastically reduce the number of ubermensch prosecuted.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Rather odd that primary witness #1 who had already either; A. Attempted suicide weeks prior or B. Had an attempt made on his life, had C. no video surveillance and D. no one checking on him at timed intervals.
Crooked, incompetent, or both? you decide, because you will never be told the truth.
DOJ has yet to release a report about the July 23 incident.
That Epstein was put on Suicide Watch implies he had either made an attempt or created a perception he had made an attempt.

His death is meaningless. If there is unaltered proof of those who engaged with teen girls, it could be released post humous by entrusted people. His death is no assurance of silence.

It however, does not fit with conspiracy theories being retweeted by Trump. Sounds to me like classic bait/ switch. Media focus on El Paso and Dayton shifted. It seems to ignore that whatever happened, happened in a Federal detention facility under the control of the AG and acting director of prisons.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Where oh where is Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s primary recruiter?
Ghislaine's father Robert Maxwell death is equally suspicious, indeed whole boks have been written about his death and links to Mossad.

Nobody really knows how he ended up slipping off his yacht the Lady Ghislaine and drowning off the Canary Islands back in 1991, but many suspect foul play.

Maxwell had raided the company pension scheme in order to keep his media empire afloat, but it was all starting to fall apart and he was going to face fraud charges eventually.

After her father's death in 1991 Ghislaine moved to the US and became a close associate of financier Jeffrey Epstein.

Was he pushed? - Telegraph

Was Robert Maxwell murdered? | Media | The Guardian

The mystery of Maxwell's death | The Independent

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