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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Originally Posted by Frank DeForrest View Post
Rather odd that primary witness #1 who had already either; A. Attempted suicide weeks prior or B. Had an attempt made on his life, had C. no video surveillance and D. no one checking on him at timed intervals.
Crooked, incompetent, or both? you decide, because you will never be told the truth.
DOJ has yet to release a report about the July 23 incident.
That Epstein was put on Suicide Watch implies he had either made an attempt or created a perception he had made an attempt.

His death is meaningless. If there is unaltered proof of those who engaged with teen girls, it could be released post humous by entrusted people. His death is no assurance of silence.

It however, does not fit with conspiracy theories being retweeted by Trump. Sounds to me like classic bait/ switch. Media focus on El Paso and Dayton shifted. It seems to ignore that whatever happened, happened in a Federal detention facility under the control of the AG and acting director of prisons.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Where oh where is Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein’s primary recruiter?
Ghislaine's father Robert Maxwell death is equally suspicious, indeed whole boks have been written about his death and links to Mossad.

Nobody really knows how he ended up slipping off his yacht the Lady Ghislaine and drowning off the Canary Islands back in 1991, but many suspect foul play.

Maxwell had raided the company pension scheme in order to keep his media empire afloat, but it was all starting to fall apart and he was going to face fraud charges eventually.

After her father's death in 1991 Ghislaine moved to the US and became a close associate of financier Jeffrey Epstein.

Was he pushed? - Telegraph

Was Robert Maxwell murdered? | Media | The Guardian

The mystery of Maxwell's death | The Independent

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Old 08-12-2019, 08:04 AM
 
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Ways the Clinton's kill ... plane crashes,car crashes,blotched robberies,weight lifting accidents,suicides ... with Eppy locked up the Clinton IMF took action.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:05 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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DOJ has yet to release a report about the July 23 incident.
That Epstein was put on Suicide Watch implies he had either made an attempt or created a perception he had made an attempt.

His death is meaningless. If there is unaltered proof of those who engaged with teen girls, it could be released post humous by entrusted people. His death is no assurance of silence.

It however, does not fit with conspiracy theories being retweeted by Trump. Sounds to me like classic bait/ switch. Media focus on El Paso and Dayton shifted. It seems to ignore that whatever happened, happened in a Federal detention facility under the control of the AG and acting director of prisons.
But William Barr is appalled. Appalled!
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Is it really so hard to believe that after a first failed suicide attempt, that he succeeded in a second after being taken off suicide watch?

A man who went from a life of privilege and wealth, to a man facing the rest of his life in prison, and knew the walls were closing in, knew the future ahead of him on the inside, and kills himself. Is it really a stretch or hard to imagine? Does no one else believe in a case of Occam's Razor?
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Ways the Clinton's kill ... plane crashes,car crashes,blotched robberies,weight lifting accidents,suicides ... with Eppy locked up the Clinton IMF took action.
...death rays, voodoo dolls, Vulcan death grip...
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Oh...

US attorney: Epstein abuse probe steadfast despite his death

Epstein was taken off suicide watch at the end of July, the person said.

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Epsteinís removal from suicide watch would have been approved by both the warden of the jail and the facilityís chief psychologist, said Jack Donson, a former prison official who worked for the Bureau of Prisons for more than two decades.


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Jeffery Epstein's apparent suicide is fueling rumors and questions

Should he have stayed on suicide watch?

Suicide watch usually lasts just one or two days, said Jack Donson, a former correctional treatment specialist for the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

"I've never seen in my entire career a suicide watch lasting more than a week," Donson said. "So the context of him committing suicide while on watch, that's just a fallacy."
AG Barr could have made certain the most high profile inmate in this facility remained under Watch. For whatever reason, this did not happen. We will never know if Barr was aware he had been taken off Watch. One would think people within the DOJ was aware, given the high profile nature of Epstein.

Itís been 2.5 weeks since the 7/23 incident. DOJ has yet to release a report of that investigation.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
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Jeffrey Epstein’s jail guards were working extreme overtime shifts, source says

Guards on Jeffrey Epstein’s unit were working extreme overtime shifts to make up for staffing shortages the night of his apparent suicide, a person familiar with the jail’s operations told the Associated Press.

The person familiar with the Metropolitan Correctional Center’s operations told the Associated Press on Sunday that one guard in Epstein’s unit was working a fifth straight day of overtime and another guard was working mandatory overtime. The person spoke on condition of anonymity because he lacked authorization to discuss jail operations publicly.

The jail staff failed to follow protocols leading up to Epstein’s death, according to a report from the New York Times, deepening the fallout from what led to the highly connected financier’s apparent suicide.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...vertime-shifts
Is this the next excuse getting thrown out there? Another rumor, so it's easily dismissed if people aren't satisfied with it. Just like "the cameras malfunctioned, that's why we have no footage" rumor that was subsequently dismissed as fallacious. I think the powers that be are fishing. They're going to keep throwing out one unsubstantiated rumor after another until they find one that seems to satisfy the American people. I expect that once they find one that satisfies the majority of people, that will quickly become the official story. Then they'll get all the prison staffers onboard with that version of events.

All you had to do is ask. Additional people to watch this insanely high profile prisoner would have been made available from elsewhere almost instantly. Sorry, not good enough. Try again.
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:18 AM
 
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Last thing we need is pointing fingers at Clinton or Trump. One voice calling “BS”, not everyone pointing fingers. This will be ridden into yesterday by the msm and faux outrage. C’mon people, can’t we be disgusted together without belonging to a team?
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Old 08-12-2019, 08:19 AM
 
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His death is meaningless. If there is unaltered proof of those who engaged with teen girls, it could be released post humous by entrusted people. His death is no assurance of silence.

Pretty sure Epstein's "suicide" was a message to all involved that if you have information and you continue to talk, you will end up like Epstein. My guess is a couple of lower-level heads will roll, and possibly some individuals who are already deceased will be implicated, and that will be it. People are going to be too scared to spill the beans with what just happened to Epstein. The really big names will be protected.
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