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View Poll Results: Do you believe Epstein committed suicide?
Yes 114 26.57%
No 315 73.43%
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Old 08-15-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You could've posted in the Epstein thread.
And you could have posted on a different thread, but you're here, aren't you?

 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:37 AM
 
Location: United States
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There is no “drop” for the physical force necessary in a prison cell—especially for someone as tall as Epstein
And the paper sheets certainly wouldn’t hold up for the physical force engendered...

This was a slow strangulation and you have to really want that to happen because it is so easy to stop before the oxygen level drops past the recovery point...

Someone watched “The Wire” and didn’t see McNulty solved that faux suicide.
You're making a lot of assumptions.

There is no official word on what was in the cell at the time of his death. We don't even know what kind of sheets were in the cell.

I'm simply saying that the unconfirmed reports coming out right now are still consistent with someone hanging themselves.

Lets wait for some official information before making any conclusions.
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:38 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Jeffrey Epstein’s autopsy determined the convicted pedophile suffered multiple broken neck bones, according to a report.

One of the breaks was to Epstein’s hyoid bone, an injury that experts told the Washington Post is more common in homicide victims.

https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/epstei...-bones-report/


It's also more common in hangings for older people vs. younger people.
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Again, the autopsy has not been released. The broken bones thing is attributed to anonymous sources. MSM is being careful in their reporting that information is unconfirmed. Click bait news- not so much.

Epstein’s death is meaningless. No certainty he would ever testify or be honest if he did.

No one knows if there are tapes being stored in vaults or clouds anywhere in the world. No one knows who controls the tapes if they exist. Imagine those who engaged at Epstein’s properties are and will remain very, very concerned. The hits could be dribbled out for decades.

If it exists, it's an extortion gold mine!
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He wasn't killed because he's a pedophile. He was killed because he knows other powerful people who had sex with those young girls.
You mean like Clinton and/or President Trump?
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:40 AM
 
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Assuming he was guilty of all the things he was accused of doing, I would have liked to learn who joined him in these activities.

Seems someone didn't want him to tell his story.
Someone perhaps with sway over the jail, as in the DOJ?
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Assuming he was guilty of all the things he was accused of doing, I would have liked to learn who joined him in these activities.

Seems someone didn't want him to tell his story.
No certainty he would have testified or if he did, would be honest. Suddenly a convicted large scale sex offender is going to tell the truth and the whole truth? I think not. No way he was going to get the sweet deal he got in Florida in 2008. His life as he knew it, was over.
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:41 AM
 
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You mean like Clinton and/or President Trump?
I don't know who did it. I know someone powerful and well connected in our government did it. Or I strongly suspect they did because no other explanation makes sense.

But I want an independent investigation - from outside our government - to do it.
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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From the article: One such study conducted from 2010 to 2013 that looked at suicidal hangings in India found that hyoid damage was present in just 16 of 264 cases, or 6 percent.
In INDIA!!?!??!!!! OMG!!

The Today show had their "medical expert" weigh in, after starting with how suspicious this broken bone was.

He said it happened in about 1/3 of strangulations and 1/4 of suicides.

so an 8% greater likelihood.
 
Old 08-15-2019, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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If it exists, it's an extortion gold mine!
Tapes, if authenticated, far more powerful than allegations made by alleged victims filing civil suits against Epstein’s estate.
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